"I win. I always win." - The Official General Zod Discussion Thread

[M2Dave]

Hey guys. I have a question about the Zod vs Sinestro matchup. I'm not trying to challenge opinions or cause any drama, but I'm wondering what makes this MU so bad for Zod? If I remember correctly Pig has it as 3-7 and Wound has it 4-6. Is it pretty much only Sinestro's trait and being punished heavily for a blocked trait grab?

1) Sinestro's trait, which is not too difficult to charge against Zod, diminishes Zod's trait mix ups.

2) Zod's crouching hitbox is almost as large as Bane's in this match. Fear blasts rarely whiff as they do versus Batman and The Flash, for example.

 

[DarksydeDash]

1) Sinestro's trait, which is not too difficult to charge against Zod, diminishes Zod's trait mix ups.

2) Zod's crouching hitbox is almost as large as Bane's in this match. Fear blasts rarely whiff as they do versus Batman and The Flash, for example.

So in other words, never use Zod against Sinestro?

 

[M2Dave]

So in other words, never use Zod against Sinestro?

You can still win if you activate trait early in the fight and get a combo. The problem is if you do not, Sinestro will charge his trait and you will most likely lose.

In this match, the winner is often decided within the first 5-10 seconds.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

So in other words, never use Zod against Sinestro?

I only lose to cowboy so idk

It's just a blow up if sinestro loses

 

[Crimson Panther]

It's kinda like Lantern vs Sinestro. I've never played Cowboy or P2W but I do quite well against Sinestro, but it's still a very bad MU looking at tool vs tool.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

It's kinda like Lantern vs Sinestro. I've never played Cowboy or P2W but I do quite well against Sinestro, but it's still a very bad MU looking at tool vs tool.

U should only judge the MU playing cowboy or p2w

 

[Crimson Panther]

U should only judge the MU playing cowboy or p2w

Right that's what I was getting at. I do well against almost every Sinestro player but I know it's not a good MU just by his tools. Tools P2W and especially Cowboy use well.

 

[Crimson Panther]

Can I get someone's help with the F2 trait grab please? Only time I can get it is right after I hit 4 then dash then F2 D4. Otherwise I just get slash.

 

[LiangHuBBB]

kinda beginner question but how do you block zods trait? it always catches me

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

kinda beginner question but how do you block zods trait? it always catches me

The bite? It's overhead.

If you mean in general, blocking means you already lost. Best bet to counter it is to armor through and run from it. It'll have mixed results most of the time, but it's usually a preferable alternative to free mixups and free interactables

 

[LiangHuBBB]

wait? sry what is an armour through? lol sry, never heard of this term before or maybe I have seen ppl use another term.
anyway I cant seem to run away from it, I always get caught and eat the full combo from the zod player
can you post a vid which does display how to escape it?
thx for the heads up mate

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

wait? sry what is an armour through? lol sry, never heard of this term before or maybe I have seen ppl use another term.
anyway I cant seem to run away from it, I always get caught and eat the full combo from the zod player
can you post a vid which does display how to escape it?
thx for the heads up mate

A recent of Pig vs Goomba fights. As you can see, neither armor nor dashing can really 'solve' the problem, since Zod can counter it by just doing slaps.Bite has a huge recovery time, so even if you armor through it from a distance, you can close the gap and put Zod on the defensive.

I would talk to Pig more about this. He would be better versed.

Armor, like meter burning a forward 3 or b3. Absorbs a hit. Armor

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

@SimSim I tried your shortcut for doing iaZB on stick with the U, DB 1 but it doesn't seem to work. The shortest of cuts I could do is U , D , DB 1 but it's not consistent because I have to do it extremely fast. Help?

 

[Crimson Panther]

Can someone please work with me with Zod? Been using him for about two weeks or so now. Just need some tips.

 

[DarksydeDash]

Anyone else having a lot of trouble against Deathstroke?

 

[VenomX-90]

And then your bitchass gets sent to the "Phantom Zone" fuck outta here with that "I always win shit"

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Anyone else having a lot of trouble against Deathstroke?

5-5 or 6-4 ZOD
I'll post MU videos soon on it

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Anyone else having a lot of trouble against Deathstroke?

We can start there then talk more about specifics

 

[DarksydeDash]

We can start there then talk more about specifics

The biggest thing is his quickfire. It is fast enough to beat Zod's trait and all his projectiles. Also his air Quickfire reacts instantly to instant air fireballs or mb Krytonian Rifles. Lastly, I know his sword flip is very unsafe but the timing with Zod makes it tough to punish it. I'm using f213, is there a better option?
Edit: I'm having trouble anti-airing his j3 and his d2 always trades in his favor with Zod's j1

 

[The Farmer]

The biggest thing is his quickfire. It is fast enough to beat Zod's trait and all his projectiles. Also his air Quickfire reacts instantly to instant air fireballs or mb Krytonian Rifles. Lastly, I know his sword flip is very unsafe but the timing with Zod makes it tough to punish it. I'm using f213, is there a better option?

I use 213, you can also use F2,1,U2

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Vs Deathstroke is one of those matches you win by the opponent being a worse built character than you.

That being said, I'd imagine his zoning does a good job against you, but I can't see Deathstroke being anything more than annoying. He simply has no skills that let him deal with Zod when Zod gets going.


BTW, for any of my Zodliest of friends, I've stopped playing Injustice, so I haven't been talking as much, but I shall still give my most vaunted of opinions. And I am still working on that Zod guide. It's still mostly done, but I haven't worked on it in months. Sorry

 

[DarksydeDash]

The biggest thing is his quickfire. It is fast enough to beat Zod's trait and all his projectiles. Also his air Quickfire reacts instantly to instant air fireballs or mb Krytonian Rifles. Lastly, I know his sword flip is very unsafe but the timing with Zod makes it tough to punish it. I'm using f213, is there a better option?
Edit: I'm having trouble anti-airing his j3 and his d2 always trades in his favor with Zod's j1

I should have mentioned I also use f21u2, my bad.

 

[DarksydeDash]

I use 213, you can also use F2,1,U2

Speaking of 213, what is his best corner combo starting off with that string?

 

[The Farmer]

Speaking of 213, what is his best corner combo starting off with that string?

this is tight execution but, 213, B2,3 instant J1-KryptRifleSlow, j2KryptRifle Med, J2 KryptRifle Fast, 123-ender

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

The biggest thing is his quickfire. It is fast enough to beat Zod's trait and all his projectiles. Also his air Quickfire reacts instantly to instant air fireballs or mb Krytonian Rifles. Lastly, I know his sword flip is very unsafe but the timing with Zod makes it tough to punish it. I'm using f213, is there a better option?
Edit: I'm having trouble anti-airing his j3 and his d2 always trades in his favor with Zod's j1

Vs Deathstroke is one of those matches you win by the opponent being a worse built character than you.

That being said, I'd imagine his zoning does a good job against you, but I can't see Deathstroke being anything more than annoying. He simply has no skills that let him deal with Zod when Zod gets going.


BTW, for any of my Zodliest of friends, I've stopped playing Injustice, so I haven't been talking as much, but I shall still give my most vaunted of opinions. And I am still working on that Zod guide. It's still mostly done, but I haven't worked on it in months. Sorry

@G4S J360 do u mind if I post our matches from recent?

It's cool if not but I always like to ask