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"You're Fired!" -- Joker General Discussion Thread

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
Just starting momentum really, and our only low options are d3 or b1, and b1 doesn't connect int the low gas can, not even in the corner
I have kinda given up on the traditional starters midscreen. You really wanna push them to the corner for those. Midscreen to me is all about crowbar mixups for OTG stuff, the 212 xx teeth frame trap, BGB setups into teeth setups, and jump in pressure with crossups and j3. Certain distances that you land a sweep from give you a pretty ambiguous jump in opportunity as well. It sucks that our best opener (b1) doesn't go into anything good combo-wise, but it's great for canceling into crowbar for OTGs, which gives good wall carry, and it's also great for spacing opponents out in some matchups. Also, be sure to abuse the distance that d2 gets. I like to mix up cancelling it into either crowbar or teeth on block to keep the opponent guessing. This is especially dangerous in the corner.
Joker is a character that you need to play with alot of patience and take advantage of every mistake that an opponent makes with good conversions and teeth/crossup setups. Idk if that helps, or is just a bunch of crap you already know, but that's my take lol.
 

rehti

Noob
It sucks that our best opener (b1) doesn't go into anything good combo-wise, but it's great for canceling into crowbar for OTGs, which gives good wall carry, and it's also great for spacing opponents out in some matchups.
It really depends on the stage but B1 can be followed by bounce interractable which leads to big combo imo.
 

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
It really depends on the stage but B1 can be followed by bounce interractable which leads to big combo imo.
Yeah I was implying that with BGB setups into teeth, but you can just go for a combo off it too. The only thing that annoys me with b1 xx BGB is it's a little inconsistent due to spacing. You have to be right up next to them to guarantee it works.
 

OnlineRon91

Joker++
It really depends on the stage but B1 can be followed by bounce interractable which leads to big combo imo.
Did you try that out with Joker pre 1.06? My thread on b1 xx 3d interactable was a MESS. Some characters were hit in front stance only, some in back stance only, a third of the cast wasn't hit at all lmao.
 

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
Did you try that out with Joker pre 1.06? My thread on b1 xx 3d interactable was a MESS. Some characters were hit in front stance only, some in back stance only, a third of the cast wasn't hit at all lmao.
It's normalized now. Hits everyone, but the hitboxes factor in as the spacing increases. Point blank, always works, but as they get farther away, it only works against the bigger hitbox characters, even when b1 connects. Just gotta get used to the distance and know whether it'll connect. I still just go for it and deal with the consequences if it whiffs lol.
 

OnlineRon91

Joker++
It's normalized now. Hits everyone, but the hitboxes factor in as the spacing increases. Point blank, always works, but as they get farther away, it only works against the bigger hitbox characters, even when b1 connects. Just gotta get used to the distance and know whether it'll connect. I still just go for it and deal with the consequences if it whiffs lol.
I know lol. Remember I told you about how its normalized now? The b1 thread was also updated ;) But yea that does suck about only hitting a few characters, but this is nothing new when you look at most of the strings and how if you start them from anything but point-blank it might miss :(
 

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
Teeth into crossup or teeth into d2 crowbar or teeth into b1
Yep. I like teeth and d2 xx crowbar if they know about it and tend to block. If they don't, just keep doing the teeth b13 32 crowbar. And if you wanna mix them up, teeth crossup j2-> combo.
 

Qwark28

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Btw guys, the pools for our major will start in 19 hours from now, if you see me not playing Joker then it's not the tournament time yet.