"I win. I always win." - The Official General Zod Discussion Thread

[Pig Of The Hut]

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Does 1243 do more damage than F2413? If so then you can do 12434 1243D4. And in the corner, you can 1243,1243,1243D4.

EDIT: damn pig, clean that vita screen!

Cool I'll try this too

Hahah that's my protective cover that's still on there
Still since day 1

 

[SimSim]

Naw, I'm pretty sure he means F2413D4. There is no f212 string is there? Only f21U2 and f213 I thought.
I've just been sticking with F2143 bF3, 4, F2143D4 for my 10/10.
I was also able to cancel a j2 into D4 last night. I can't get the timing to do it consistently though. I want in on this glitch trait combo action.

Yea I understood what he meant, I was being stupid

 

[SimSim]

AK Pig Of The Hut

I feel this is much harder to do (and get the cross up when they block) than the ones I am already doing, but if you like it I will let you do it

I am going to upload some variations soon.

And here they are:

 

[HP Hatecraft]

@AK Pig Of The Hut
@SimSim

Did I leave anything out besides 3 and D2?

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

@AK Pig Of The Hut
@SimSim

Did I leave anything out besides 3 and D2?

Lmao that last combo

Love it

 

[Johnny2d]

Johnny2d
SimSim

Idk about u guys but 11d2 4 f2413d4 (30%) into ambiguous cross up reset is my new jam

Works w 1243 4 f2413d4 too

Kreygasm

I like it too, 11d2 seems to still be the most unexpected chain, still catches people off guard when the others are getting scouted. I'm liking ending with f2413d4 as my bnb no matter what the starter was.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

Trait glitch happened again. It's really from a Bite damage win.

 

[HP Hatecraft]

Trait glitch happened again. It's really from a Bite damage win.

What trait glitch? The command grab glitch where the wraith keeps trying to grab you repeatedly that happened all the time pre 1.06?

 

[Johnny2d]

Not sure if this is known but you can summon wraith and get the reset mid combo on fortress of solitude in the right side. You can do it from basically any bnb, I've been using f21 mb laser j3 f213 stage interact (to use that phantom zone laser thing on the right). Then summon wraith, then f21, 4, 2413d4. It summons wraith mid combo, and puts them in the grab in perfect position for the reset. It gets like 40% before the reset. In my opinion this makes fortress of solitude the best stage for zod. He can get the summon and reset from almost any bnb on that side of the screen and obviously the left half of the screen is good for Zod too.

SimSim AK Pig Of The Hut

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

What trait glitch? The command grab glitch where the wraith keeps trying to grab you repeatedly that happened all the time pre 1.06?

nope. this

 

[HP Hatecraft]

Not sure if this is known but you can summon wraith and get the reset mid combo on fortress of solitude in the right side. You can do it from basically any bnb, I've been using f21 mb laser j3 f213 stage interact (to use that phantom zone laser thing on the right). Then summon wraith, then f21, 4, 2413d4. It summons wraith mid combo, and puts them in the grab in perfect position for the reset. It gets like 40% before the reset. In my opinion this makes fortress of solitude the best stage for zod. He can get the summon and reset from almost any bnb on that side of the screen and obviously the left half of the screen is good for Zod too.

SimSim AK Pig Of The Hut

You can also summon it, and grab mid combo with the electric wires in the batcave(crime lab I believe), the bullets in the left of metropolis.

EDIT: Fast forward through the transitions. My video with the metropolis set up is in one of my post on the previous page I believe.

 

[Johnny2d]

You can also summon it, and grab mid combo with the electric wires in the batcave(crime lab I believe), the bullets in the left of metropolis.

EDIT: Fast forward through the transitions. My video with the metropolis set up is in one of my post on the previous page I believe.

Nice so my thing isn't really new, it just combines the easy ender of 2413d4.

 

[HP Hatecraft]

Nice so my thing isn't really new, it just combines the easy ender of 2413d4.

Yeah, that video is about two months old, so your set ups should work wonders now that we know about the resets and the trait grab canceling.

 

[NHDR]

Hey guys, a few questions...

I used Zod briefly a while back, haven't been able to play the game since the newest patch released. Won't be able to play until December. With that said...

1. How did the patch changes affect Zod?
2. I've read everywhere that he's very technical. Is this in terms of setups or tight execution? I've never been overwhelmed with executing anything with Zod except for the IA Rifle. I assume he's technical in the sense that you need to account for spacing of his laser, trait setups, and so forth?

Thanks.

 

[Qwark28]

technical in NRS games does not mean much, dont be intimidated

just dont expect to see a zod play and be able to emulate what you see like with 90% of NRS game cast

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Hey guys, a few questions...

I used Zod briefly a while back, haven't been able to play the game since the newest patch released. Won't be able to play until December. With that said...

1. How did the patch changes affect Zod?
2. I've read everywhere that he's very technical. Is this in terms of setups or tight execution? I've never been overwhelmed with executing anything with Zod except for the IA Rifle. I assume he's technical in the sense that you need to account for spacing of his laser, trait setups, and so forth?

Thanks.

1) Not really no. Just a couple of tweaks.

2) Yes and no. A lot of his stronger tools require specific placement, such as IAZB and the d4 canceling glitch. However, he can still function on his other tools.

 

[HP Hatecraft]

Skimmed through previous pages and couldn't find this anywhere, so please forgive me if this is old. I've stumbled upon what looks like a new reset with Zod. It seems to be character specific, because some characters can back dash it. (Might be inescapable in the corner) You cannot jump forward, backwards, or neutral jump if done correctly, and even if your timing is off, most your strings will catch the jumps. Here is the concept. I guess this can be done off of any grounded 22, but I have high hopes in the we can incorporate this into our command grab whiff reset. Basically 22MBDC(MB Dash Cancel) gives you a huge amount of frame advantage, and timing certain strings just right will cause the damage to reset. Here is a video to better demonstrate. Please let me know what you think about this. If you think that this deserves its own thread, then let me know and I will do so and delete this post. If not, then I will just keep it here.

AK Pig Of The Hut
@Johnny2d
@SimSim

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Skimmed through previous pages and couldn't find this anywhere, so please forgive me if this is old. I've stumbled upon what looks like a new reset with Zod. It seems to be character specific, because some characters can back dash it. (Might be inescapable in the corner) You cannot jump forward, backwards, or neutral jump if done correctly, and even if your timing is off, most your strings will catch the jumps. Here is the concept. I guess this can be done off of any grounded 22, but I have high hopes in the we can incorporate this into our command grab whiff reset. Basically 22MBDC(MB Dash Cancel) gives you a huge amount of frame advantage, and timing certain strings just right will cause the damage to reset. Here is a video to better demonstrate. Please let me know what you think about this. If you think that this deserves its own thread, then let me know and I will do so and delete this post. If not, then I will just keep it here.

AK Pig Of The Hut
@Johnny2d
@SimSim

Such wastes of meter.

On two unrealated topics, 1) AK Pig Of The Hut, have you thought about doing another most wanted? Perhaps you could do one on yourself for matchup experience. Like numerous Ft10s against different people/characters and paying them if they beat you/lost by less than 3 games. 2) How bad would you guys really say his d2 is? I don't think it's that bad, it just has low priority. Good range to compensate afterall. I mean, not everyone can be Aquaman or Wonder Woman

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Such wastes of meter.

On two unrealated topics, 1) AK Pig Of The Hut, have you thought about doing another most wanted? Perhaps you could do one on yourself for matchup experience. Like numerous Ft10s against different people/characters and paying them if they beat you/lost by less than 3 games. 2) How bad would you guys really say his d2 is? I don't think it's that bad, it just has low priority. Good range to compensate afterall. I mean, not everyone can be Aquaman or Wonder Woman

Im playing an INSANE amount of games right now

Sinestro isnt a problem anymore, i do very very well now

last thing i want to do before nec is put forth into something public and say "HEY EVERYBODY LOOK AT WHAT IM DOING IN EACH MU"

seriously???

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Skimmed through previous pages and couldn't find this anywhere, so please forgive me if this is old. I've stumbled upon what looks like a new reset with Zod. It seems to be character specific, because some characters can back dash it. (Might be inescapable in the corner) You cannot jump forward, backwards, or neutral jump if done correctly, and even if your timing is off, most your strings will catch the jumps. Here is the concept. I guess this can be done off of any grounded 22, but I have high hopes in the we can incorporate this into our command grab whiff reset. Basically 22MBDC(MB Dash Cancel) gives you a huge amount of frame advantage, and timing certain strings just right will cause the damage to reset. Here is a video to better demonstrate. Please let me know what you think about this. If you think that this deserves its own thread, then let me know and I will do so and delete this post. If not, then I will just keep it here.

AK Pig Of The Hut
@Johnny2d
@SimSim

actually i kinda like this

seriously, its kinda cool

Ill try this, i knew 22 had to have some neat trick along w it due to how much hit stun it has

great stuff

 

[HP Hatecraft]

actually i kinda like this

seriously, its kinda cool

Ill try this, i knew 22 had to have some neat trick along w it due to how much hit stun it has

great stuff

Thanks, man. Let me know if you find anything useful off of it. Or if you find out the frame dataon the 33MBDC. I'd really like to know how much advantage we have on hit. It is a lot of meter, but I just thought it was worth sharing and looking into. Keep me posted!

 

[SimSim]

Thanks, man. Let me know if you find anything useful off of it. Or if you find out the frame dataon the 33MBDC. I'd really like to know how much advantage we have on hit. It is a lot of meter, but I just thought it was worth sharing and looking into. Keep me posted!

This should be a good but expensive reset, but be aware: If you don't delay it, it will combo:

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Im playing an INSANE amount of games right now

Sinestro isnt a problem anymore, i do very very well now

last thing i want to do before nec is put forth into something public and say "HEY EVERYBODY LOOK AT WHAT IM DOING IN EACH MU"

seriously???

That's fair. I was mostly wondering where you and the Pig's Most Wanted thing got off to. After NEC then maybe?

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

SimSim
HP Hatecraft
Colonel-Gilgamesh

Hey while we continue to look for new tech I want to bring this up as the more and more I play top competition to train for Nec the more people are push blocking my rush down w trait. Part of me doesn't mind this but sometimes it annoys me so..........I wanted to share w you guys something

You can ZC in then right when u trait swipe (this is usually what they push blood to avoid the 50/50 guess altogether ) MB b3 as well and your armor will eat the push block and take their meter and combo off of b3

Also as for zod's corner game , idk if u guys know but d12 stuffs 90% wake ups in this game on the frame

FTD
Trident rush
Dooms day's (sooooooo free)
Harley
Etc

But back to my main corner stuff if you have MB I recommend f3 MB into his 48% combo ending in trait summon and if they wake up an block it blocked f3 puts u at perfect distance for max range f2 and you can tick it to throw them or let it come out


I'd really like us to focus on more ways to remove the push block defense, as the meta evolves this will be widely used

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

That's fair. I was mostly wondering where you and the Pig's Most Wanted thing got off to. After NEC then maybe?

Probably, I'm extremely focused on MUs and players

I don't lose to sinestro at all anymore and feel very comfortable now

I have key MUs to work on now and have 2-3 weeks

It might come back after Nec