Match-up Discussion Becoming the Pope - The General Zod Matchup Thread

[Marcus]

Hopefully there is no hazing involved to join this fraternity.

The overlords will decide on that lol
AK Pig Of The Hut
SimSim

 

[The Farmer]

Where do I sign up to join the Zod Army? I can now visualize this characters strengths and think he's awesome. I have named my wraith "REPTILE" because he give Wafflez nightmares still to this day. Hopefully there is no hazing involved to join this fraternity.

I hope to make it to GGA soon Han for a Thursday! Zod needs to be represented at GGA Thursday Locals.

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

We leave the signup sheet on the floor in a giant Zod statue. Not sure how you're gonna get down low enough to sign it though.......

 

[M2Dave]

I was fighting WoundCowboy earlier for AK Pig Of The Hut 's challenge. Cowboy avoided at least three of my fully charged low lasers by simply walking back full screen away, costing me 40% of damage every time. After the matches, I went in to the practice mode to test and I was getting inconsistent results. Sometimes the fully charged low laser would hit Sinestro full screen away. Sometimes it would not, even if I did slash beforehand.

I cannot believe NRS is recycling hitboxes from Mortal Kombat 9. This glitch used to happen with Freddy's far spike too.

I expect my mix ups to work every time. Not half the time. Or 33% of the time. Or "whenever the game feels like they should work" time.

Unacceptable.

 

[Owerbart]

What do you guys feel about the Raven MU? Just curious.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

What do you guys feel about the Raven MU? Just curious.

Id like to have a really long series w blind man and will look to do so this week

Currently from what ive seen its one of his tougher 5-5s but i do feel it could be 5-5

When she activates trait mode im finding 2 solid options

1. Throw a slow ball now. This protects you for only a short period of time but what it can do is force her not to use her full screen grab move for a little but or she eats a force ball. Also after the ball on block you can mb laser to buy more time if needed or if she is hella respecting you throw another slow ball after the first one is being respected but personally what i would do is slow ball, wait a sec, trait summon then you're really clear

2. Trade trait for trait. All you have to worry about now is her teleport but i give slight adv to zod's trait.

Parry her FTs forcing her to do unsafe FTs like instead of her d1 lift FT off that one string she will have to do something like raw lift or squeeze.

One thing fun about this MU is both characters seem to always have his/her trait which makes it a neat watch

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Id like to have a really long series w blind man and will look to do so this week

Currently from what ive seen its one of his tougher 5-5s but i do feel it could be 5-5

When she activates trait mode im finding 2 solid options

1. Throw a slow ball now. This protects you for only a short period of time but what it can do is force her not to use her full screen grab move for a little but or she eats a force ball. Also after the ball on block you can mb laser to buy more time if needed or if she is hella respecting you throw another slow ball after the first one is being respected but personally what i would do is slow ball, wait a sec, trait summon then you're really clear

2. Trade trait for trait. All you have to worry about now is her teleport but i give slight adv to zod's trait.

Parry her FTs forcing her to do unsafe FTs like instead of her d1 lift FT off that one string she will have to do something like raw lift or squeeze.

One thing fun about this MU is both characters seem to always have his/her trait which makes it a neat watch

Couple of things I'd like to add to this MU. 1. Sidearm is far superior to Raven's anything fullscreen, cept maybe with trait out. Normal Raven has to hold that. Sidearm recovers fast enough to block/duck shadow ravens while still hitting Raven. Absorb or whatever her shield is doesn't last long enough to tank Sidearm an it's MB follow up shots, especially given how they can be delayed. 2. Meaty d3 on wakeup. Raven has to block it since none of her wakeups will get Zod

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Couple of things I'd like to add to this MU. 1. Sidearm is far superior to Raven's anything fullscreen, cept maybe with trait out. Normal Raven has to hold that. Sidearm recovers fast enough to block/duck shadow ravens while still hitting Raven. Absorb or whatever her shield is doesn't last long enough to tank Sidearm an it's MB follow up shots, especially given how they can be delayed. 2. Meaty d3 on wakeup. Raven has to block it since none of her wakeups will get Zod

im pretty sure lift/squeeze will beat a d3

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

im pretty sure lift/squeeze will beat a d3

Tested it. D3 goes underneath both.

 

[SimSim]

Yea meaty d3 ftw

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Tested it. D3 goes underneath both.

Thats awesome

thanks

 

[Qwark28]

im pretty sure lift/squeeze will beat a d3

cant you iazc every soul crush?

 

[Marcus]

Seems like I dont have any problems against most characters except for Nightwing and Killer Frost.

Any tips on fighting them?

AK Pig Of The Hut
SimSim
Colonel-Gilgamesh
General M2Dave

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Seems like I dont have any problems against most characters except for Nightwing and Killer Frost.

Any tips on fighting them?

AK Pig Of The Hut
SimSim
Colonel-Gilgamesh
General M2Dave

I play a nightwing from time to time. Escrima is not that good vs Zod, you can probably just do your normal thing. Staff Stance is, as you know, the problem. Because of how Staff Stance is, it can be hard to deal with long range zoning. The options I suggest are this:

1) Air MB Zod balls. Should buy time to get out trait or whatever you want.
2) Dash+ZC should close the gap a bit and MIGHT even dodge MB ground pound
3) Well timed parries should make close range staff a bit better
4)Standing 3 through his blockstrings if you want to take a chance. The hitbox should beat him out if he tries to do a jump attack.(UNCONFIRMED)

 

[Marcus]

1) Air MB Zod balls. Should buy time to get out trait or whatever you want. --- Thats what I do when I have meter, but I cant rely on that alone.
2) Dash+ZC should close the gap a bit and MIGHT even dodge MB ground pound --- So the trick is to stay close? Yea I figured since I cant really zone staffed NW.
3) Well timed parries should make close range staff a bit better --- Oh man. I know that parry can stuff D1 staff spam but the timing is strict. Yea will work on that.
4)Standing 3 through his blockstrings if you want to take a chance. The hitbox should beat him out if he tries to do a jump attack. (UNCONFIRMED) --- Really? Not really using standing 3, but ok let me try. Is this risky? Is the in-game frame date for 3 correct?

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Yeah, it's safe. But I will double check for you immediately

Also, backdash up close

 

[Marcus]

Here are some problems with both Nightwing and Killer Frost.

- Cant seem to release trait. Need to MB Airballs first but I cant rely on that all the time.
- How to zone them since I dont want KF to be within slide/overhead range.

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Yeah, it's safe. But I will double check for you immediately

Also, backdash up close

A quick step into the lab revealed:

Nightwing Ground Pound's tracking is pathetic. Like super bad. Dash the hell out of it but beware the MB version

S3's frame data is correct.

Nightwing jumps higher than I thought in staff. s3 not a catchall. Plus, the range is meh, but we knew this. A raw PS might do better

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

I cannot believe NRS is recycling hitboxes from Mortal Kombat 9. This glitch used to happen with Freddy's far spike too.

I expect my mix ups to work every time. Not half the time. Or 33% of the time. Or "whenever the game feels like they should work" time.

Unacceptable.

agreed. I bet this happens with other characters and we just chalk it up to "spacing" errors.

 

[IrishMantis]

Pig said AM is a bad MU for Zod, didn't see how

Played an good AM today, acticivated trait, caught him with a MB low Laser, AM activates Trait

--____--

 

[trustinme]

I was fighting WoundCowboy earlier for AK Pig Of The Hut 's challenge. Cowboy avoided at least three of my fully charged low lasers by simply walking back full screen away, costing me 40% of damage every time. After the matches, I went in to the practice mode to test and I was getting inconsistent results. Sometimes the fully charged low laser would hit Sinestro full screen away. Sometimes it would not, even if I did slash beforehand.

I cannot believe NRS is recycling hitboxes from Mortal Kombat 9. This glitch used to happen with Freddy's far spike too.

I expect my mix ups to work every time. Not half the time. Or 33% of the time. Or "whenever the game feels like they should work" time.

Unacceptable.

so is that why u lost? sorry I thought it was the million fear blasts u ate.

 

[Marcus]

Pig said AM is a bad MU for Zod, didn't see how

Played an good AM today, acticivated trait, caught him with a MB low Laser, AM activates Trait

--____--

Avoid MB lasers when playing against AM.

 

[IrishMantis]

Yeah bro, learned the hard way, i can see how that little thing amke this match tough for Zod

Avoid MB lasers when playing against AM.

 

[M2Dave]

so is that why u lost? sorry I thought it was the million fear blasts u ate.

True.

I was very impatient.

Pig and I are still trying to figure out the best way to fight this match.

 

[Marcus]

Yeah bro, learned the hard way, i can see how that little thing amke this match tough for Zod

Yea, very hard for Zod to summon trait too. I myself have a hard time against fast tracking specials. (NW, KF, AM)

against Aquaman, I grab a lot.