Can you explain this a little better? I don't get where the reset is taking place.
The reset should occur after you bounce your opponent off of the table. That action ends the combo, but since you start the next string with the mine, they land upon it, which starts the whole process over again. Landing upon the mine doesn't give them the opportunity to wake up or perform a tech roll.
After additional practice, I've learned that this combo can be performed on ANY stage that has a background bounce interactable. Even better than that, I've also learned that you can judge the placement you need to start the combo at in order to use said interactable by other nearby interactables (for example for the table inside Wayne Manor, you'd need to start this combo near the piano or the chair in order to get the entire combo).Okay, I went back into practice mode & tried this again. I was wrong on more points than I originally thought (since it's been a month since I've pulled it off). Try this:
#1. dd3, db3, 112 (hits gravity mine), b3, ji2, 2, table (1st reset); 34% damage (8 hits).
#2. dd3b (hits gravity mine), b3, ji2, 2, table (2nd reset); 29% damage (5 hits).
#3. dd3b (hits gravity mine), b3, ji2, 2, table (3rd reset); 29% damage (5 hits).
#4. dd3b (hits gravity mine), b3, ji2, 2, super. 46% damage (11 hits).
TOTAL = 3 resets worth 138% damage (with 29 total hits).
Remember, you have to have full meter, be on the far end of either side of the table, and your opponent has to be on their 2nd health bar. It's all very, very situational - but if you can pull it off, your opponent is nothing but dead.
On a personal note, I figured out how to edit my posts. Yay!
How can they do a low block against the mine if they're too busy flying through the air and landing on it?
I would imagine so since f2 is an overhead & the mine has to be blocked low - that's a win/win for Lex.
Well it doesn't combo into the mine, correct? Mines don't otg. They just have to hold down.
In practice mode, I set it up so the AI would roll - after the stage bounce, the AI never rolled. I'm pretty sure you can't wake up from a stage bounce because I believe it's a hard knock-down. I'll check on this to be sure...
I just confirmed this myself as well, background bounce intractables cause a hard knockdown, and there's plenty of time to lay down a mine right at their feet. Combo I was doing into the stage bounce:
Sort of. There's some setups and stuff that could be added but it's too hard to put every ending situation in one list.
Thank you, sir. I just wanted to make sure I didn't start practicing a bunch of stuff from the op only to learn it's all outdated and doesn't contain anything people use anymore. A few character forums have combo threads like that.
Just to clarify terminology, a hard knockdown is one you can't roll out of. You can do a wakeup attack out of ANY knockdown with proper timing except for special situations where inputs can be reversed, usually in the corner. So the intractable does cause a HKD, which is very advantageous and its not terrible that they can wakeup since that's a little mindgame that players have to consider for just about every knockdown. The fact that a wakeup attack is possibly one of two ways out of this setup or maybe even the only way out means they can be baited pretty easily. And like revolver said with trait up you can just ignore single hit wakeups altogether.Hmm, I thought someone would've responded to my previous post by now...
In any case, I have discovered (to my dismay) that it is NOT a hard knock-down. I set the AI up in practice mode to perform wake-ups & EVERY time they hit the ground from flying off of the table, they would immediately go into the wake-up, which completely bypassed the gravity mine. However, for a human player I still imagine the timing to pull this off would be incredibly hard to do, so at least there's that...
Actually it doesn't look like backdashes can escape the mine! The stage bounce leaves them directly at your feet and the close mine gets placed slightly behind them, so a backdash will still get caught. I tested with lex, batman, black adam, and martian manhunter. So basically the opponent has to wakeup attack or block the mine. Which means wakeup attack or eat a F2 combo essentially. I'd appreciate if someone else could test this just to confirm my findings cause this is pretty awesome.
Your findings!? I was the 1 who listed the combo that allowed you to do this in the 1st place! Don't try to take credit for others' ideas - that's plagiarism & I won't stand for it.
I don't know if you're saying that completely seriously, but he's referring to the finding that backdashes won't escape the unblockable setup.
Easy man I was referring to backdashes to make sure I tested them properly. I give you all the credit for originally finding this setup I'm just trying to help polish it.
Pretty much. With trait up its a lock against most of the cast. It's pretty solid even without trait though since you're not really shortening the combo it actually adds damage to the basic midscreen combo into mine anyway, it ensures that they land on top of the mine without having to make a read on whether they will roll because they can't roll, and there's only one way out of it.
