What is the current tier list for IGAU as of 7/23/2013?

[Zoidberg747]

Not entirely true.

Only fullscreen you're able to dodge with certainty his zaps and lasers, as you move closer one misstimed jump or dash means you're back to fullscreen and have to work your way in again. You can crouch dash consecutive zaps, but not zap -> laser since you'll get hit on your dash recovery frames. Then, if you read wrong he will do a ground laser and he decides to do an air laser instead, chances are you'll get hit out of air.

Like it has been said already, the riskeward ratio favors Superman a great deal. If you react or read correctly you dodge or block, if Superman does he does a full combo punish or puts you back in the same situation. The only time you get to punish Superman is if you read 2 consecutive zaps or Superman foolishly does air lasers at the top of his jump.

If you are within a dash distance away you can jump all heat visions. Zap->laser can be dashed, I have tested it many times. Dont wait until the heat zap has fully recovered, you can just dash it when you see the heat zap start. You wont get hit out of the air until you are within a dash range, and then he can't heat zap anymore and you can force heat vision to whiff by jumping back.

The risk reward does not favor him with his zoning. The only thing his zoning is good for is meter building. If he messes up you can punish him(character dependent).

Superman is #1 because of his dominant corner game and corner carry, along with great pressure. His zoning is sub-par and is just used to build meter. If you can't get past his zoning you are making the MU very very hard on yourself.

 

[cR WoundCowboy]

Barry Allen would like to have a word with you.

flash?

Flash is good but I think that even he has some balls hard MUs, such as GL.

 

[Zyphox]

Flash is good but I think that even he has some balls hard MUs, such as GL.

he has hard MU's but all he needs to do is get a hit and turn the tides on any MU in this game. i didn't OTG against you because i respect your wake up, but he can turn the tides with one trait combo, once your in the corner its GG's against some characters. am still learing everyday with the flash and if am patient enough against superman it is winnable. his tough MU's imo are HG, BA, NW, maybe GA and supes. everything else he mops up or goes even or slight advantage other character for example sinestro or WW. if i take out maybe's i just have to worry about HG's BA's and NW players.

 

[Bildslash]

If you are within a dash distance away you can jump all heat visions. Zap->laser can be dashed, I have tested it many times. Dont wait until the heat zap has fully recovered, you can just dash it when you see the heat zap start. You wont get hit out of the air until you are within a dash range, and then he can't heat zap anymore and you can force heat vision to whiff by jumping back.

The risk reward does not favor him with his zoning. The only thing his zoning is good for is meter building. If he messes up you can punish him(character dependent).

Superman is #1 because of his dominant corner game and corner carry, along with great pressure. His zoning is sub-par and is just used to build meter. If you can't get past his zoning you are making the MU very very hard on yourself.

You're right about zap then laser. My mistake. Still, you have to make reads and react, which can make you hesitate even if for a moment.

Having said that, his zoning does favor him: he builds meter, he chips you, and if you get hit you are put back full screen. And the punish is situational, but a smart Superman won't put himself in such scenario often.

In the end, if you get past that you still have to compete against his footsies. That's why Superman is #1, he's got the whole package.

 

[Juggs]

I think you forgot wonder woman.

I think you're right. *fixed

 

[yaoding09]

You're right about zap then laser. My mistake. Still, you have to make reads and react, which can make you hesitate even if for a moment.

Having said that, his zoning does favor him: he builds meter, he chips you, and if you get hit you are put back full screen. And the punish is situational, but a smart Superman won't put himself in such scenario often.

In the end, if you get past that you still have to compete against his footsies. That's why Superman is #1, he's got the whole package.

He should though its superman for crying out loud hes a god in the dc universe.

 

[regulas]

Not entirely true.

Only fullscreen you're able to dodge with certainty his zaps and lasers, as you move closer one misstimed jump or dash means you're back to fullscreen and have to work your way in again. You can crouch dash consecutive zaps, but not zap -> laser since you'll get hit on your dash recovery frames. Then, if you read wrong he will do a ground laser and he decides to do an air laser instead, chances are you'll get hit out of air.

Like it has been said already, the riskreward ratio favors Superman a great deal. If you react or read correctly you dodge or block, if Superman does he does a full combo punish or puts you back in the same situation. The only time you get to punish Superman is if you read 2 consecutive zaps or Superman foolishly does air lasers at the top of his jump.

If you are in a position where you cannot recover from dash fast enough (though you should be dodging zap anyway) just walk. Also unless I'm a zoner I don't want be trying to directly punish lasers, my goal is just to get to the optimal range for whatever char I'm playing.

From the sounds of it you are trying to go for bold punishes instead of relying on tenacious inevitability. Or maybe your main chars are just ones that really cannot deal with superman.

 

[Ninj]

Holy shit this has 130 replies? There isn't a "current tier list".

/thread

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[x0Kakashi]

Yo, is that Salt haha

You play both supeman and AM
so you cant say nothing hahaha

Haha , youre Mantis right ? you know how much i hate black adam lol for some reason i just cant play agaisnt that character

 

[IrishMantis]

Haha , youre Mantis right ? you know how much i hate black adam lol for some reason i just cant play agaisnt that character

you destroyed a BA there a few minutes ago, haha, Black Adam or MY Black Adam

 

[Bildslash]

He should though its superman for crying out loud hes a god in the dc universe.

Then by that logic Doomsday should be #2 because he killed the god of dc universe. Then Batman #3 because he's the goddam Batman.

 

[SaJa]

Shazam is a lot better than people are making out, Joker is pretty turd.

I've noticed that Lobo and Shazam are very underplayed/underestimate because they actually really suck online. But once you figured out that is a completly different story offline, you quickly change your mind about those characters.

Where do you think Shazam should be in the tier list ?

 

[x0Kakashi]

you destroyed a BA there a few minutes ago, haha, Black Adam or MY Black Adam

He was obviously new to the character and its not just your BA i struggle agaisnt Qwarks aswell and any other decent BA

Your BA is good tho

 

[Rude]

Barry Allen would like to have a word with you.

as for OP my current tier list
S+ : superman
S: black adam, aquaman, WW, batman, GL , Flash
S- : KF, batgirl, Raven, GA
A+ : nightwing, DS, catwoman, harley, sinestro, zod
A: doomsday, HG, Grundy, cyborg, scorpion
A- :bane, ares, shazam, lex, lobo
B: joker

Barry Allen? Fuck that guy. It's ALL about Wally.

 

[IrishMantis]

He was obviously new to the character and its not just your BA i struggle agaisnt Qwarks aswell and any other decent BA

Your BA is good tho

I Know man im just playing,,,, GG too, yes he is new, good read

Moral to the Story both SM and BA run this game

 

[IrishMantis]

I've noticed that Lobo and Shazam are very underplayed/underestimate because they actually really suck online. But once you figured out that is a completly different story offline, you quickly change your mind about those characters.

Where do you think Shazam should be in the tier list ?

From playing Both for a good while now, i can Confirm Shazam is much better than lobo

 

[yaoding09]

From playing Both for a good while now, i can Confirm Shazam is much better than lobo

I agree with that. Shazams trait is amazing. Lobo is underrated though I think.

 

[x0Kakashi]

I Know man im just playing,,,, GG too, yes he is new, good read

Moral to the Story both SM and BA run this game

They do sadly I just wish Shazam was a bit better, GGs.

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

S : superman,aquaman,black adam,batman,harley quinn,flash
A : nightwing, sinestro, batgirl, doomsday, green lantern, green arrow,wonder woman,killer frost
B : catwoman, raven,deathstroke, zod,ares ,joker,cyborg,grundy, scorpion
C : shazam, bane, lex, lobo
BROKEN : hawk girl

 

[yaoding09]

S : superman,aquaman,black adam,batman,harley quinn,flash
A : nightwing, sinestro, batgirl, doomsday, green lantern, green arrow,wonder woman,killer frost
B : catwoman, raven,deathstroke, zod,ares ,joker,cyborg,grundy, scorpion
C : bane, lex, lobo
BROKEN : hawk girl

Theres no way HQ is better than WW DD GL GA or KF lol

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

Theres no way HQ is better than WW DD GL GA or KF lol

u just didn't saw real HQ players, firstble no one can zone her , and she got good damage, 50/50 , and anti wake up's. and HQ is rly very bad match up for superman

 

[Killjoy McGee]

S : superman,aquaman,black adam,batman,harley quinn,flash
A : nightwing, sinestro, batgirl, doomsday, green lantern, green arrow,wonder woman,killer frost
B : catwoman, raven,deathstroke, zod,ares ,joker,cyborg,grundy, scorpion
C : bane, lex, lobo
BROKEN : hawk girl

May I ask why you placed HQ and Flash at S, but you placed WW at A? Also where is Shazam on this list?

 

[yaoding09]

u just didn't saw real HQ players, firstble no one can zone her , and she got good damage, 50/50 , and anti wake up's. and HQ is rly very bad match up for superman

But the other fighters you put in the A tier are bad MUs for HQ which means she would not be a S tier fighter.

 

[shaowebb]

Bane's only terrible MU's are Supes and BA, and tbh 90% of the cast struggle with them just as bad as Bane does.

Dont forget Green Lantern. The chain gun and grab really really make it hard to start Bane's frame trap close up game as they either hit too many times to raging charge through or can wear out his venom/punish his dash attempts and put him back out. New and improved dash is awesome so he can't back dash us at least, but he can still lay down a gauntlet if he wants on Bane thats a bit harder than most to go through.

 

[G4S Claude VonStroke]

Kabal would body superman free. /thread