One thing i want to say is that KABAL HAS A FUCKING INFINITE. WHY IS THIS OK? If you really think this character is ok you're a moron. I used to think he was managable, but it's stupid man. I happen to play top characters (because i like their design) that have less of a problem with him than most, but even then it's stupid. once those gasblasts start you have to keep ducking or crouchblocking meaning kabal can do whatever the hell he wants. he builds infinite mere and can combo from a projectile at full screen. even if the player's reactions are slow as shit he can hit 2 or 3 gas blasts before dashing and comboing you because it carries you and he's at advantage when he shoots them. again, if you think it's ok to have this character in the game you are dumb.
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I think banning a character so far into the game...
if he's banned and it opens up the meta-game, then it's just the beginning of the game. Most of the people that have given me a legitimate reason for quitting mk have said they quit because of kabal.
My only worry is getting rid of kabal will make other characters like cage, sonya, cyrax, and kenshi more dominating.
it makes about 29 of them more viable... wait a minute...
but seriously though, there's no real down side to it. I can count on zero hands how many times someone has said "wow _____ is really broken, well at least we have KABAL to beat her/him with." every single other character has at least 2 characters they have problems with and some that they go 5-5, kabal has 0 problems and MAYBE 1 5-5.
I didn't know this sonya downplaying thing is still going on, I thought that was 2012. Dude she is top 3 for sure, and would run this game along with kenshi if kabal was gone.
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I dont get something though, kenshi isnt the best zoner, freddy is, there arent many top kenshis (only @Foreverking and
GGA Jeremiah have gotten top 8 with him in 2013 and both have had other characters for some matchups (also, does CEO count as a major with only 25 people? tournaments that small only top 2 really count, but i can see the case for top 4)). Why is everyone afraid of him? seems that top players have figured out the matchup
Banning Kabal won't keep this game alive. MK9 will always be a game of top5 characters. Someone will just replace him as the best ect ect....
YOU WANT TO KEEP MK9 ALIVE??? THEN TRAVEL TO A TOURNAMENT! TUNE IN TO THE STREAM! TELL TOs YOU WANT MORE MK
It is easy, you just have to go support your game no matter what.
Edit: I am a Kabal loyalist, but I would switch to Sonya so fast...
#BanKabal4Ever
That's partially true, but Kabal discourages growth. I think that's the biggest problem with him. and lol, i just remembered out casuals when you just kept saying *shrug* "that's kabal" lmao.
also, as far as top 5, in the last years there were 20 characters who made top 8 at majors and like 25 who made top 16 (even KANO
), so yeah sonya will probably be the strongest character without kabal, but i think it would open up the way for most of the rest of the cast.
This is dumb. As someone who has invested countless hours into Kabal practicing NDC's until my fingers bleed and my pads break, what would I do? Be forced to play one of my alts which I haven't put half the time into? We just had DJT show even at the highest level Kabal is beatable with the patience and proper strategy. At this point in the game banning people's mains would just turn them off further from attending tournaments. How would you feel if your main is all of a sudden banned after 2 years. SMFH that people are actually humoring this bs.
cost: 2-3 people who have only played kabal. benefit: infinite people who are turned off by the idea that unless they play kabal they have to play kabal's game.
sounds good to me, see you in mk10 K7
1:03:13 - is that, several perfect IAGBs in a row?
Note that when he's doing that there's absolutely nothing kitana can do but duck
you guys dont see the problem here, if you ban kabal, who stops kung lao? at least sonyas and cyrax are checked by kenshi while kenshi himself by reptile smoke scorpion and or scarlet.
if youre banning one, ban the second dude who dominates just like kabal
who stops lao? idk maybe jax, sonya, cage, sektor, cyrax, and kitana. maybe one of the many 5-5s he has like kang. maybe crouching, no matter the character. oh shit, that's right, lao has major problems with a large portion of the cast -__-
Without Kabal Cyrax will probably become the #1 character in the game with no losing match-ups, but at least he has alot of 5-5's.
I think Sonya and cyrax would be tied at the top
I think cyrax loses to kitana. she doesnt need meter in that matchup and he cant open his chest (iaf keeps it closed). she has better footsies and is safe on everything.
but this discussion doesnt matter unless kabal is banned. otherwise i agree with you
There's a second tier in mk that would still dominate. After Kabal it becomes a game of Cyrax, Kenshi, Sonya, Lao, and Cage.
If you remove all the above characters, Kitana and Smoke are probably at the top, but the overall balance is actually pretty fucking good from there out. I'd support a trial tournament with the 6 characters locked.
This is asking way too much. This would exclude a lot of people that picked up one character or another because they thought they were cool (lao, cyrax, kenshi) or sexy (sonya, lao, human cyrax) and then picked up kabal because of 6-4 kabal. just not having kabal changes things a lot. also, cage doesnt belong in that group.
It seems that Kabal's obvious disadvantage is if you approach him slowly. He's always putting himself in a corner WITH 3 BARS OF METER AND ARGUABLY THE BEST ARMOR IN THE GAME with air gas blasts. He's obviously a hell of a difficult character, but proven beatable in a major tournament.
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Sure: 2 times EVO chapm forking outrageous misinformation about Kabal and everyone is like "great points, you're right - because youre the champ (and because we hate Kabal)". And it's funny like some well known players (PL included) upplay Kabal: my all time favorite is "Kabal has no even much-ups". Oh and hilarious "it's no big deal for Kabal mainers": did it even crossed your mind that one can't simply hop over to an another character and be proficient with it as with his/her main, which was trained for whole 2 years?
Keep refusing to learn Kabal much-up, while DJT exposed a crapload of Kabal's weaknesses, because "we want an easy way out": #stayfreemkc
For the record, I'd quit MK9 if Kabal is banned and surprisingly not because Kabal is the "S++++++++++" tier and only character with which I can win with: Kabal is like the only character, which interest me mechanics and creative potential wise from the whole roster and if he's gone - there isn't much interest for me in the game any more. And being a tourney player I won't waste my time with a banned character.
Noone said anything about carl winning evo until you. you should know how little respect he gets on here beyond noobies who dont know better.
also, are you really complaining because you wouldnt have a character that dominates the entire cast? good riddance. it's not upplaying, kabal actually is that good and even a decent kabal will recognize that playing the character means you're always playing your game and making the opponent play into your game. it's never even.
I don't think Kabal should be banned. I feel that hes a technical character that rewards a person who is will to put their time into him. I think banning him would be like taking all that time away from the Kabal players and just saying, "Well bummer, pick Kenshi or Cyrax, Lao, Sonya, etc." It okay to have a dominate character in the game, every fighting game does. Also, its not like every other person is a Kabal player, or their execustion with Kabal is amazing, but that's just me....
there's a difference between a dominant character and a character that no other character can reasonably beat. Would you like akuma to be unbanned in sf2t? nah, lbsh.
