Question If Kabal were banned

[TIME | KWOLF]

-1 frame to armor. +10 -9 = 1 frame that you're still in block stun
#math

doesn't really matter to me. I've never just flat out even let a kabal body me since i was bad at the game. now i just play jax and like i said just outplay the guy. Kenshi is more of a threat to me than kabal is. And JC is a bigger threat than both.

 

[DoctrineDark]

i know it only works against big hitbox characters, but still. at least jax's infinite only works in the corner (though i think he needs to get that removed)

 

[TIME | KWOLF]

i know it only works against big hitbox characters, but still. at least jax's infinite only works in the corner (though i think he needs to get that removed)

why would you take away the only thing that makes him even b tier? without that jax is just like he was at the beginning before the buffs and patches. thats like me telling you to take away kitanas fans lol. Jax, Smoke need resets or else they would be flat out terrible. #Stryker Tier

 

[DJ L Toro]

why would you take away the only thing that makes him even b tier? without that jax is just like he was at the beginning before the buffs and patches. thats like me telling you to take away kitanas fans lol. Jax, Smoke need resets or else they would be flat out terrible. #Stryker Tier

jax is 10th or around there. stop downplaying. he's A+.... why am i even glorifying this post with a response?

 

[Daryl Brown]

Perfect legend why don't you just learn how to beat him?

 

[TIME | KWOLF]

Well of course you think jax is A+ the guy is damn near unstoppable to you. I'm not downplaying jax. Its a long explanation of why he's b tier. He got exposed for what he was. You can full combo any of jax's specials on block and interrupt most of his strings. It's terrible now. only reason CDjr was winning everything in 2011 is because no one knew jax. He was #1 to tombrady then he got exposed. Jax is pretty bad. You can't do random things with him you have to actually know how to use him or else your fucked. you can dash right through his ex overhead on reaction.

 

[lebanese boy]

Ok I'm not being a retard or saying this is even or something
But I like playing sub zero vs sonya sometimes xD
+ if kabal and cyrax and kenshi r banned
We might see low tier chars winning


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[TIME | KWOLF]

jax is 10th or around there. stop downplaying. he's A+.... why am i even glorifying this post with a response?

Thats why i can only name like 5 good jax players outta the hundreds of jaxes and i can name 100 people good with cyrax,lao,cage.

 

[Perfect Legend]

Perfect legend why don't you just learn how to beat him?

I have but the problem to consistently beat Kabal is to be a robot.

Him doing saw or overhead after f32 or f32 ndc into another one or something else is a big 50/50 to even try to poke out and you will more than likely get blown up for it. Most you get for punishing him is like 20% come on bro lol

. Also this sounds like good advice for all the people who complained about Scorpion lol

 

[MKPROJECT2359]

Why don't we request MK10 instead of banning characters? IMO banning a character would give the game less interest. :3

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

No.

I wouldn't mind, and I agree with your point, Mr. Carl, but why now?
It's been such a long time, with the metagame already established for this long, and as has been said repeatedly, leaving Kabal out of the mix would unbalance the game so severely between the rest of the Top 5 that it'd make the rest plead for his return.
As horrible as Kabal can be, he does a subtle and solid job of keeping the masses honest.

 

[RTM2004]

I used to think Lao wins 6-4, but after playing Pboard and Seven and after talking for a while, it could be a possible 5-5. Pboard thinks Ermac wins 6-4. You literally can't teleport in this matchup at all, if you delay the tele3 or instant tele3 Ermac can uppercut to do a 50% combo every single time. Ermac controls alot of space with telepush and lift. Ermac punishes hard every mistake you make. It's tougher than you would think lol

<3 you KING but seriously stop downplaying Kung Lao!

the matchup is in kung lao favor, stop thinking lao is all about the teleport.

and you, seriously stop up playing Kung Lao!

Kung Lao is a high tier character but he has his problems and he is beatable. He loses to Cyrax obviously since he can't play his game and he can't compete with outrageous broken damage from that robot. He loses to small hitbox characters like Cage and Kitana who has superior footsies on ground, half life damage and takes away his air game. Then he has problems starting offense on low hitbox characters like Sektor and Mileena that counter his air mind games but nothing too overwhelming for him. He is Top 5 but not safe and broken like Kabal, Kenshi, Cyrax and Sonya.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

2ndc

Block infinites are NOT true infinites.

 

[Glass Sword]

Perfect Legend makes a lot of sense. It has been 3 years. We know everything. We have never thought he was not broke. The question has always been how broken.
To beat Kabal you have to be twice as good as your opponent during the match. It comes down to the Kabal player fucking up. If the Kabal is flawless; victory is slim.
I mean what do we have to lose. No one respects us already the. The game is in its death bed. The worst that could happen is we put the game to rest which is going to happen at the rate things are going.

 

[AZ MotherBrain]

Oh no! A block infinite and gas blast. I can't imagine this character ever losing. Seriously, you ban kabal, then what, ban kenshi? Cyrax? My god. I'm a subzero player, I don't have a problem with kabal. Do I get bodied by kabal? Damn Skippy, but its all good, I could pick lao or Sonya, but I choose not to. I like subzero. If I lose to kabal, well I guess that's my problem.

 

[ForeverKing]

Perfect legend why don't you just learn how to beat him?

It's so annoying how nobody is understanding the big picture. You don't get the point behind everything.

The point is that Kabal is the best character in the game. The point is that Kabal has no losing matchups and no even matchups. The point is that Kabal is at advantage in literally every matchup he plays. The point is that Kabal is NEVER at disadvantage, Kabal is NEVER even at a 5-5. Kabal is always always always at advantage against every other character in the game.

So....... why should somebody be allowed to choose Kabal in tournament, and be at an advantage in every single match they play? Every character in the game besides Kabal can be counter-picked. Every character in the game besides Kabal has 5-5 matchups. Kabal is the only character in the game that can't be counter-picked, Kabal is the only character in the game that is never on even neutral grounds. He puts his opponent at disadvantage no matter what character they choose.

Yeah, obviously he is beatable. It's sooooooooo annoying that people keep saying that. Every character in every fighting game is beatable. A 9-1 matchup is still winnable right? But is it fair? Is it fair that somebody can choose Kabal in tournament and 7-3 or worse every other character in the game? As long as you choose Kabal you will always have an advantage over all your opponents and none of your opponents will ever have advantage over you....... none of your opponents will have an even chance against you..... If they beat you, they beat you when they were at a disadvantage

 

[Daryl Brown]

Ladies and Gentlemen why don't we stop complaining about how amazing Kabal is and just train twice as hard to beat him. I mean instead of complaining non-stop study Kabal. (not saying that any of you already don't).

 

[Daryl Brown]

It's so annoying how nobody is understanding the big picture. You don't get the point behind everything.

The point is that Kabal is the best character in the game. The point is that Kabal has no losing matchups and no even matchups. The point is that Kabal is at advantage in literally every matchup he plays. The point is that Kabal is NEVER at disadvantage, Kabal is NEVER even at a 5-5. Kabal is always always always at advantage against every other character in the game.

So....... why should somebody be allowed to choose Kabal in tournament, and be at an advantage in every single match they play? Every character in the game besides Kabal can be counter-picked. Every character in the game besides Kabal has 5-5 matchups. Kabal is the only character in the game that can't be counter-picked, Kabal is the only character in the game that is never on even neutral grounds. He puts his opponent at disadvantage no matter what character they choose.

Yeah, obviously he is beatable. It's sooooooooo annoying that people keep saying that. Every character in every fighting game is beatable. A 9-1 matchup is still winnable right? But is it fair? Is it fair that somebody can choose Kabal in tournament and 7-3 or worse every other character in the game? As long as you choose Kabal you will always have an advantage over all your opponents and none of your opponents will ever have advantage over you....... none of your opponents will have an even chance against you..... If they beat you, they beat you when they were at a disadvantage

Okay, but why would someone choose a 9-1 matchup? Think about it & when someone does choose Kabal it's usually 6-4.

 

[Daryl Brown]

You people just need to start thinking of this game like Call of Duty. The Pros all use the same weapons perks ect, but those weapons aren't banned. Those are the ''Unfair weapons'' yet everyone uses them. So why ban something that's so high tier? I mean seriously if some one uses an ACR ( near perfect accuracy) would you choose a mini-uzi? Just try to put it into perspective and i'll be as open minded as possible.

 

[ForeverKing]

Okay, but why would someone choose a 9-1 matchup? Think about it & when someone does choose Kabal it's usually 6-4.

That was just example. But now your starting to understand the point. The best you can do against Kabal is 4-6. That is the best lol

When you are fighting against Kabal, your BEST option in the entire game is to put yourself at a 4-6 disadvantage.... you don't have the option to put yourself at advantage, you don't have the option to put yourself even at a 5-5. Your only option is to put yourself at a disadvantage. How is that fair?

 

[Konqrr]

kenshi can still get beaten. ive done it countless times to some of the best kenshis on xbl with jax.

And so can Kabal...

 

[Daryl Brown]

You people just need to start thinking of this game like Call of Duty. The Pros all use the same weapons perks ect, but those weapons aren't banned. Those are the ''Unfair weapons'' yet everyone uses them. So why ban something that's so high tier? I mean seriously if some one uses an ACR ( near perfect accuracy) would you choose a mini-uzi? Just try to put it into perspective and i'll be as open minded as possible.

What ever happened to outplaying your opponent? I mean you all are Pros.

 

[Perfect Legend]

The problem isnt scrub novice kabals. When I use Kabal I dont feel like any of my wins are deserved.

 

[Daryl Brown]

The problem isnt scrub novice kabals. When I use Kabal I dont feel like any of my wins are deserved.

So I guess all of the Call of Duty Pros using ''Overpowered weapons & Perks'' feel the same way.

 

[Perfect Legend]

So I guess all of the Call of Duty Pros using ''Overpowered weapons & Perks'' feel the same way.

Why are we comparing COD to MK?