MY MKX PATCH WISH LIST FOR KP2 (POST YOURS)

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

Kenshi needs much more than that
-B1 faster start up
-B2 needs to be useful(Kenjutsu)
-EXdf1 re-captures(Kenjutsu)
-Better frames for all his useles strings(Kenjutsu)
-Better comboability
-etc

BTW why no one is talking about Warrior Predator? I never see anyone use him.

To be fair, if there wasn't HQT we wouldn't see much predator at all. Idk y tho, that character is op.

 

[Wigy]

Actually. One big game fix. Normalised blockstun!

Things that should be easy punishes being a pain in the dick

 

[Diego de Souza Costa]

here's my opinion on Lord REO's suggestions...


Kenshi:

Balanced
- All versions of Telekinetic Strike (D,B+4) are now -3 on block. (just the EX one, the regular needs to be -9 or more , a fullscreen zoner, can't be too safe)
- All versions of EX D,B+4+BLK now have one hit of armor. (good)
- EX Spirit Charge is now +7 on block. (he needs to have an overhead/low normal tho, even if it is a highly punishable one.... lel)
- EX Tele Flurry is now -6 on block and has it's whiff recovery cut in half (and all hits needs to come out on block, "mid, mid, low")


Possessed
- F4 can now be cancelled into specials on hit and block. (PLS !!!)
- EX B,F+3+BLK now has 100% increased tracking. (also increase the tracking on the regular Demon Fury... -_-)
- D,F+4 is now +15 on hit. (+15 seems a little too much.... + 8 or 9, is better)

P.S. buff or adjust all of his useless strings, to be either safer on block, do more dmg (combo filler) or for them to be special cancellable, this character has a fuck ton of strings.... make them useful ffs...

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

here's my opinion on Lord REO's suggestions...


Kenshi:

Balanced
- All versions of Telekinetic Strike (D,B+4) are now -3 on block. (just the EX one, the regular needs to be -9 or more , a fullscreen zoner, can't be too safe)
- All versions of EX D,B+4+BLK now have one hit of armor. (good)
- EX Spirit Charge is now +7 on block. (he needs to have an overhead/low normal tho, even if it is a highly punishable one.... lel)
- EX Tele Flurry is now -6 on block and has it's whiff recovery cut in half (and all hits needs to come out on block, "mid, mid, low")


Possessed
- F4 can now be cancelled into specials on hit and block. (PLS !!!)
- EX B,F+3+BLK now has 100% increased tracking. (also increase the tracking on the regular Demon Fury... -_-)
- D,F+4 is now +15 on hit. (+15 seems a little too much.... + 8 or 9, is better)

P.S. buff or adjust all of his useless strings, to be either safer on block, do more dmg (combo filler) or for them to be special cancellable, this character has a fuck ton of strings.... make them useful ffs...

The current tracking on bf3 is vomit

 

[aieches]

also can we add better punishment for rage quitters

 

[Schuyler]

Reading through this thread I see people saying Cassie has options to make her 50/50's safe without EX flip kick so nerf it, what are they? I'm interested in what people have found that I don't know about.

Same. She needs a damage buff if flip kick becomes unsafe.

 

[WiseM0nkey]

Cassie is dumb

 

[kantboy-2]

Commando Kano needs an air throw just to keep opponents on their toes. His MK3 air throw would be perfect.

 

[Wigy]

Commando Kano needs an air throw just to keep opponents on their toes. His MK3 air throw would be perfect.

This would compliment his short range jip's as you could jik grab

 

[OnlineSkunk]

Make Quan Chi D+FS bat a mid instead of calling it once per combo, make his F+FS bat an OH to compensate, damage buff to regular bat and bat grab. Also Blood God would be very good if block breaker cost a bar of meter knowing he can go for the toten after a block breaker but it's okay I can learn this character in under 2 hours

 

[stosn]

Actually. One big game fix. Normalised blockstun!

Things that should be easy punishes being a pain in the dick

Lol. Just go into the lab and learn how to punish

 

[Eldriken]

Lol. Just go into the lab and learn how to punish

That's the problem. Blockstun at times doesn't let you punish something, even though you should be able to.

 

[stosn]

That's the problem. Blockstun at times doesn't let you punish something, even though you should be able to.

So, you doing d2, not full combos, because in combos you need to learn timing?

 

[Eldriken]

So, you doing d2, not full combos, because in combos you need to learn timing?

Could you rephrase the question? I don't understand what you're trying to get at.

 

[Ns_Brutalmileena]

Don't take the bait

 

[stosn]

Could you rephrase the question? I don't understand what you're trying to get at.

You train combos. In combos you need to train timing. What the problem to learn timing of blockstuns? Its part of the game

 

[Eldriken]

You train combos. In combos you need to train timing. What the problem to learn timing of blockstuns? Its part of the game

Um. They're able to block before you can punish due to the blockstun. There's nothing you can do about it. Timing does nothing.

A move that should be punishable but isn't due to blockstun has nothing to do with timing. No adjustment to timing will change the blockstun. Only NRS can do that by modifying the frame data on the blockstun.

 

[Zaccel]

You train combos. In combos you need to train timing. What the problem to learn timing of blockstuns? Its part of the game

If variable blockstun were as simple as remembering a few moves, that'd be fine, but it's everywhere and leads to unnecessary splitting of hairs. It serves no functional purpose and could have been done right the first time.

I'm sure it makes online even more enjoyable, too.

 

[stosn]

Um. They're able to block before you can punish due to the blockstun. There's nothing you can do about it. Timing does nothing.

what the move/special you cant punish? and what the character you play?

 

[TwiztidOne]

Um. They're able to block before you can punish due to the blockstun. There's nothing you can do about it. Timing does nothing.

A move that should be punishable but isn't due to blockstun has nothing to do with timing. No adjustment to timing will change the blockstun. Only NRS can do that by modifying the frame data on the blockstun.

it's not that you can't punish because of blockstun, its just that the blockstun is so wonky that it makes the timing of punishing things(even things that are super negative) really weird.

you could lab every punishable move in the game to get use to each ones specific blockstun to make punishing easier but imo that's completely stupid they should just normalize blockstun because there's no reason we should be needing to do all that

 

[ryublaze]

General
- 1 Bar Block Breaker
- Input Shortcuts fixed
- Reduced timer
- Better netcode

Takeda
- Mid Kunai is consistent on all characters and in the corner

Ronin
- Blade Kall has consistent blockstun

Lasher
- Whip Strike input changed from DF1 to DD1 to make D+F+1 input easier
- Whip Strike is an overhead
- Whip Trip is a hard knockdown

 

[STRYKIE]

I don't mean to come off as condescending here, and variable blockstun isn't always easy to deal with, but there will never be such a thing as "universal blockstun". For a move with a lot of recovery frames to be much safer when blocked, there simply has to be a lot of blockstun for it. And vice versa.

Unless of course, you guys are okay with with Warlock's F3 having like 4 recovery frames on whiff.

General
- 1 Bar Block Breaker
- Input Shortcuts fixed
- Reduced timer
- Better netcode

Takeda
- Mid Kunai is consistent on all characters and in the corner

Ronin
- Blade Kall has consistent blockstun

Lasher
- Whip Strike input changed from DF1 to DD1 to make D+F+1 input easier
- Whip Strike is an overhead and a hard knockdown
- Whip Trip is a hard knockdown

I'm not a Takeda player so take this with a grain of salt, but in terms of giving Lasher reasons to be picked over the others, would it not be more significant to give it's specific armored moves faster startup perhaps?

 

[Braindead]

That's the problem. Blockstun at times doesn't let you punish something, even though you should be able to.

Um. They're able to block before you can punish due to the blockstun. There's nothing you can do about it. Timing does nothing.

A move that should be punishable but isn't due to blockstun has nothing to do with timing. No adjustment to timing will change the blockstun. Only NRS can do that by modifying the frame data on the blockstun.

I don't think that's true. Some moves have long block stuns but the character who did the move still has a lot of block stun himself and can't block. The net difference should still be in your favor to punish if the move was unsafe.

It's just that the long blockstun for the blocking character makes the timing weird and makes it easy to miss the punish window.

Maybe there are some extreme cases (I doubt it though), but I don't think a single move has a variable blockstun making it punishable in one case and safe in another.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

@STRYKIE lasher is the scariest for sub zero imo the air normals give takeda even more to rek the Klone

 

[STRYKIE]

@STRYKIE lasher is the scariest for sub zero imo the air normals give takeda even more to rek the Klone

I caught you talking shit about BRC in the KP2 reveal thread, save your pity.