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hold on a second, MK9 has a place as well. We might as well discuss both because both are great topics of discussion.
hold on a second, MK9 has a place as well. We might as well discuss both because both are great topics of discussion.
No way jax goes ahead of reptile matchup wise, also you are forgetting about scarlet too. Matchup wise, I'd say smoke is better than cage actually. Smoke has better damage, zoning, good footsies, great AA options, better wakeups, etc. Smoke dominates the cast more than cage does.
Zatanna, Flash, Supes, Batman, Sinestro (I believe this one is bad from what I've seen), Batgirl, and I may be forgetting someone. He of course bodies multiple characters too.
Okay, okay.
I do agree that tomorrow this thread is going to blow up once more people get into this, this thread should be open for a while based on what we are trying to accomplish (making a top 5 that our community can generally agree with).
yah skarlet reptile are right up there too.. and you're crazy, smoke has potentially better dmg than cage. cage also has a standing reset into more pressure and mixups which prevent having to deal with wakeups. cage has the best aa's in the game probably also an easy option seiect with f3. not to mention has +adv strings / frametrap mixups. Also what wakeups are better? smokeaway / smokefoward which are both grabable and punishable and a teleport thats fullcombo on block -.-
Oh, I'm sure it will. Lots of folks are asleep right now, so once they get all caught up with reading all the new posts, it will probably get super busy. Not to mention even more opinionated than it already is.
Well arguments are going to be opinionated of course, but evidence is what is needed to back up your opinion and make it more credible/stronger.
Smoke can also touch you once and it's GGs, Cage always has to hit you at least four times off of optimal confirms. Also St. 2 from Smoke is probably just as good as any AA Cage has except it can lead to death or 70% with 1 bar. Also Smoke has a admittedly risky but good call out move in EX Shake .
Oh I can say he is better than cage, I will list characters smoke does better than and smoke away is better than flip kick/shadow kick/ nut punch and a whole lot safer:
and I am being completely serious, smoke has no reason to be outside top 10 or below anyone besides the top 6 with his matchup chart.Agreed. However, some people get really shitty when it comes down to their opinion(s). That's mainly what I was meaning.
lol that is the way of TYM my friend. You should've seen some of the Mk9 tier list/ matchup threads. I had to go to war with so many people
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Flash has standing resets and OTG's after trait combos. You must guess. Even his 60% leads to a bad guessing game due to it reversing wake ups/stuffing wake ups or just armoring through them. You must decide to which option to take and pretty much half the options get beat by either of his. Really not that different from BG. Even Fox says Flash is BG's hardest MU so why is it so difficult for her? She definitely doesn't zone him. Flash has many ways to get his trait combo going and they are all fairly safe. Batgirl must make a risky read and she doesn't have the whiff punish capability of Flash. Flash can just walk back and forth baiting attacks and whiff punishing. Batgirl must take a huge risk to bait an attack. That basic tenet holds true for most other MU's in the game as well.in AE, seth and ibuki were considered top 10 pretty much. Only difference with akuma is he possessed more tools than them overall. They were (and still are) good characters. Also Flash landing a b2 isn't going to happen that easily because he doesn't really outfootsie characters for the most part. Also flash has to watch for a wakeup, backdash, jump back, and etc. after a trait combo. Batgirl just has to hit you than standing reset you for another mixup. Also it isn't hard for batgirl to get the vortex going lol, actually she can get that going easier than he can get his trait combo going. Flash could be top 5, but him being better than batgirl????? heard that one from some at evo, going to have to call that a bill
I dnt see how flash would be her hardest matchup according to fox, but everyone has their own opinion of course. Overall in all the matchups tho, Fox has flash above her (as do most in our community I'd say pretty comfortably).
I've also heard Nightwing beats him too.
Where there is smoke there is fire.
To quote his MU chart:
That could be set up at NEC #YEEEAAAPPP or TFC for that matter as well
OMG please make this happen! Wait, is Theo going to TFC? Theo vs Revolver or Fox would be crazy hype.
THANK YOU. People on this site take potential damage over guaranteed damage, how is that logical? Hell yeah her vortex is good, I'm not going to say something stupid like it sucks, but I'd take 1 guaranteed 60% from a 50/50 over however many reps of just under 30% from a 50/50 that aren't even guaranteed and that I could possibly even be punished for trying to continue.
Aaaaaaaaaand credibility gone... you better have some damn good reasoning for that tier list hahaha
You are a fucking god.
#7?! I don't think any of us have said she's lower than top 5
Too far?
