The reason the throw is winning is that your d1 timing is off. Try the opposite and set the dummy to reversal throw and attempt to beat it with d1 d1. Might take a few tries, but once you learn the block stun timing, you should be beating the throws.
That works if they make the right read. They don't know if Jason's gonna do d1 again after a blocked d1. I never agreed with anyone that it was an actual infinite or anything. I see your point and it's good you're bringing to light that there are ways around it. But as always, when you're in the lab, you're in a set environment. So what you're capable of doing consistently in the lab doesn't always translate that well into an actual environment.
What I mean by an actual poke is that the poke is able to be counterpoked with a mid or other if blocked, like every poke in this game as far as I'm aware. Jason can do a blocked d1 into a 9 frame mid which is not true counterpoking meta. If it was -5 he would not be able to do this and the world will be better off lol
So we should nerf a character because he's forcing you to make a read?
But are you really suprised?
Kung Lao can do a d1 and beat counterpokes by immediately Ia divekick after. Do we nerf his d1, too?
Nah. While I'm on the same side as the folks saying it should be a bit more negative on block, I'm not clamoring on about it the way they are. If it stays, fine. I use the character, so if it stays, it means I get to use it the way it's currently being used. If it gets changed, oh well. I will just have to adjust.
F/T's and LK's too
Exactly what I've said since Jason received his buffs. His buffs are what all future buffs should be based around. They're fair and balanced for the most part. There is an adjustment that would be nice here or there, but other than that, he's not breaking the game, super top tier, etc.
What?! lmao, no he can't. And just to make sure I labbed it. Any mid will hit Lao out of the instant dive kick. Smh at the comparison.
Yeah, D1 is really the only cringey thing he does. It's not like Alien, Demolition, Piercing, or Cutthroat levels of cringe at all.
Agreed. Getting to see Jason on stream at a tournament is like the hypest thing ever. I fucking love watching high level Jason players. SaltFace's Slasher is a sight to behold. Fuckin' poetry in motion. XD Really good Unstoppable players are amazing to watch as well.
True, some argue that his damage buff is retarded but let's not forget that it probably has the worst recovery of any move in the game lol.
Well to be fair it can become safe or even plus enough to armor break after some combos. If you're dumb enough to activate it in the opponents face then yeah I agree.
I know it's not quite 'as bad', but when you're using the same arguments to defend this as their broken stuff you know somethings up.
Imagine if you could cancel into the EX damage buff on hit/block and it would allow you to continue pressuring/comboing them? FFFUUUUU
I think cooljaxx found an extremely tight link off of f2 ex damage b3. He said it connects but it's hella tight. Yea though I feel you o_o
Yeah, the throw CAN beat it, if your timing is off. It's a 2 frame link to beat the throw. This is math, Rude. If d1, d1 literally can't beat a throw, let's pack up the entire thread because the frame data is actually wrong and this has all been an even more pointless conversation than usual.
so I guess Slayer, when he played Lao and did that exact thing I'm describing, or DJT, who also did that with Lao, were making it up?
Yeah I agree. Broken is just such a strong word. The only characters from any version of the game I would say are broken would be the launch version of Liu Kang and CEO 2015 Tanya. Liu had the jailing cancels and a plus 14 fly kick mb soooo. Rip af
Yo let's do that! *insert doge*
