Tweedy
Noob
They're not dude. People aren't going to let you downplay Cyrax until he's the next Mileena.
They're not dude. People aren't going to let you downplay Cyrax until he's the next Mileena.
I'd take variationless Kenshi over CSZ
The only one in this thread that seems to be overestimating Kenshi is M.D. and he's the biggest troll on TYM besides maybe Dave. Ken-, I'm sorry Balanced, is called out to be bad about twice per day, more depending on whether there is a thread about Balanced active on TYM. No one is overestimating Kenshi besides those that don't know bf3 is a high.
You forget about nrs guys, which from what we can see in the patches, seem to think that Balanced is "fine" xD
Teleflurry being a mid in balanced, with his actual frames on startup (14f) and block (-9), would be broke shit.
He'd be a top 5 zoner if it was a mid, TF in general is extremely good save for its whiff recovery and maybe damage, it's good on block, has really good tracking and knocks them full screen.
If Balanced's Tele flurry were a mid, Balanced could easily rise way up in the tier list. Let's say he does a tele flurry and you block it, Kenshi can now do two things. One, just do another tele flurry to pseudo-frame trap you if you dare press a button. Admittedly, trades wouldn't always be in his favor because there is like a 19-20 frame gap in-between the two, but even then his fullscreen game would be extremely dominant.
Exactly, it would be super dumb. Also, for a mid TF, Possessed variation is there. And bf3 in possessed is more negative on block, which makes sense.
You sure you're not confusing the clash with rising karma? RK is -10, I'm 90% sure the OH-slash is at least safe.
Risking Karma is -12, Overhead slash is -10. But Overhead slash done after, for example, 421, is practically safe due to the pushback of the string.
LOL xD
Possessed's is already a mid, but it is a lot more acceptable because it's -23 on block and his low stomp can't catch airborne opponents unlike the overhead slash. The scenario in balanced would make AA'ing off of OH slash a lot less important because you can pseudo-frame trap them all game with the -9 flurry.
Ah alright, thanks.
I personally wouldn't like Balanced tf becoming a mid at the cost of losing frames on block, because Possessed is there for those who want mid tf (although its tracking SUCKS).
The thing with tele flurry is that I feel like it should be just - enough to not be punishable, but make it so that most characters can make it to sweep distance where Kenshi will have to use either push or a D4 to keep the opponent back out. Push should also be like -12, maybe -11. That alone would likely help to a decent extent.
It used to be a mid yes, but it did not reach fullscreen. As such if you were to miscalculate the range of your toss, you would be trance levels of - on whiff.
