Question Where does GL rank pre-patch

[Fred Marvel]

green lantern has a turbine he can use to get in

turbine is ass

Lex corp charge is nowhere near safe. Neither is ares teleport.

corps charge isnt safe? i didnt think teleport was

 

[jaym7018]

so many things wrong with that list.


this. Except I would replace Batman for Batgirl seen as GL and Batgirl have better match ups. As good as batman is, he goes 5-5 with most of the cast IMO

Batgirl gets murder death killed by aquaman for that reason she cant be top 5.

 

[187x]

green lantern has a turbine he can use to get in

LOL, enjoy getting punished using turbine bro.

 

[jaym7018]

turbine is ass



corps charge isnt safe? i didnt think teleport was

Corp charge is full combo punishable

 

[THTB]

His walk speed paired with his b1 make his space control ridiculous. GL controls space better or just as well as almost any other character in the game. The only person that does it better is probably Superman. His dashes are definitely are definitely ass though, but they should be.

He controls midscreen very well. Fullscreen and up close, he doesn't, though. Obviously in his best part of the screen, his mobility works. A low jump arc is good here, and walking does wonders. But outside of this, his bad dashes and a low jump arc can get him into trouble. THAT is where his mobility becomes troublesome.

And Ares has bad dashes, but he also has the ability to avoid having to move across stages to deal with projectiles.

 

[Fred Marvel]

Corp charge is full combo punishable

ah my mistake i guess its just way faster than turbine but just as punishable

 

[Jdizzle31]

Batgirl gets murder death killed by aquaman for that reason she cant be top 5.

So?
That makes no sense, you can't sum up a character based on one bad match up. Tier lists are formed by reviewing how a character does against the entire cast

 

[maximusroman]

LOL, enjoy getting punished using turbine bro.

some characters cant even reach gl to punish him after turbine

 

[maximusroman]

LOL, enjoy getting punished using turbine bro.

some characters cant even reach gl to punish him after turbine

 

[187x]

some characters cant even reach gl to punish him after turbine

 

[jaym7018]

So?
That makes no sense, you can't sum up a character based on one bad match up.

When we are talking top 5 characters yes you can. Anyone with a 3-7 match up isnt top 5.

 

[THTB]

some characters cant even reach gl to punish him after turbine

If max range, this is mostly true.

Closer, just about everyone has an answer. Zatanna, Ares, and Bane are the only characters I'd reckon have trouble punishing at that range and maybe closer.

 

[THTB]

When we are talking top 5 characters yes you can. Anyone with a 3-7 match up isnt top 5.

Pretty sure vanilla Ryu still lost to Dhalsim 3-7.

 

[jaym7018]

Pretty sure vanilla Ryu still lost to Dhalsim 3-7.

Where did you get that Airs joke ryu downplaying match up list? The one where he says dan nearly goes even with him.

 

[4x4lo8o]

And Ares has bad dashes, but he also has the ability to avoid having to move across stages to deal with projectiles.

There's only a handful of projectiles in the game slow enough that Ares can teleport on reaction, and most of the ones that are recover fast enough to punish teleport. Suggesting Teleport is a good mobility tool is about as accurate as saying Turbine is a good mobility tool. In a lot of ways Godsmack is a better tool than teleport for mobility and punishing zoning, and Godsmack is pretty shitty too

 

[Fred Marvel]

When we are talking top 5 characters yes you can. Anyone with a 3-7 match up isnt top 5.

GL has a 3-7 MU

 

[TrulyAmiracle]

No he doesnt wtf.. this nigga, king of downplaying right here.

GL isnt top 5 imo but he's 6th or 7th. Definite top 10.

 

[Jdizzle31]

When we are talking top 5 characters yes you can. Anyone with a 3-7 match up isnt top 5.

Even if we were to agree that the match up is 7-3 whether or not shes top 5 is still dependent on other match-ups but whatever that's another topic

 

[afrozilla86]

I love the downplaying game, but you are talking down an easy top 7 character. Over half the characters you had on his "bad matchups" are simply 5/5 such as raven and black Adam. While mobility would be nice, g.l is just mostly dependent on your playstyle. Honestly believe a lot of his matchups will be 5/5 or better down the road.

 

[JAZZY RULEZ]

Green lantern is top 8 because he can pretty much zone out half the cast with jump back rocket, b1 3 can be cancelled into mini gun to make it safe , has one of the best f3 , has some good resets, mini gun does loads of chip and I cba to list the rest

 

[Pan1cMode]

so many things wrong with that list.


this. Except I would replace Batman for Batgirl seen as GL and Batgirl have more match ups in their favour. As good as batman is, he goes 5-5 with most of the cast

Batgirl is a great character, and she does have more favourable MUs than batman. She does however also have more unfavourable MUs (one which is [imo] a 7-3)

- Aquaman
- Nightwing
- Doomsday

Are her 3 worst MUs. There is also debate saying she loses to:

- Grundy
- Bane
- Superman

Everyone else I'd say she either beats or goes even with. Personally, I don't mind the last 3 MUs but others say they can be troublesome.

Batman just doesn't have those bad MUs, nor anything near the horror of aquaman for batgirl.

 

[Red Reaper]

it being low doesnt make it good Batmans grapple cathes his jump

a teleport closes the distance GL has turbine? i think a teleport beats that
lol Raven, Cyborg, Deathstroke can completely shut him down depending on the stage, Batgirl, Superman he has no answer to at all maybe even more

Batman's grapple is used on a read. The fact that you kan get anti-aired doesn't mean it's not good.

Teleport is less safe than turbine in general. A lot of characters kan't punish turbine due to the pushback.

Chef thought Cyborg wasn't bad. You just have to be patient. Deathstroke I know doesn't shut him down. Get mid range and it's all in your favor. Once you're in lift range, no more Deathstroke mobility and no more guns. Superman beats a lot of characters.

I don't know about Batgirl. But Raven is bad from my understanding.

 

[Pan1cMode]

Batman's grapple is used on a read. The fact that you kan get anti-aired doesn't mean it's not good.

Teleport is less safe than turbine in general. A lot of characters kan't punish turbine due to the pushback.

Chef thought Cyborg wasn't bad. You just have to be patient. Deathstroke I know doesn't shut him down. Get mid range and it's all in your favor. Once you're in lift range, no more Deathstroke mobility and no more guns. Superman beats a lot of characters.

I don't know about Batgirl. But Raven is bad from my understanding.

Batgirl is a bad MU for GL, probably a 6-4. He can't use rockets, because if she jumps one, she gets a teleport into vortex. He doesn't really have that many approach options so batgirl can just bola cancel and build meter all she wants. She outdamages him both midscreen and corner. His vortex doesn't work against her as db2 and df2 are both viable wakeups. Cartwheel eats through MB f3 so that doesn't work either.

It's not a terrible MU, but it is in batgirl's favour.

 

[Red Reaper]

Batgirl is a bad MU for GL, probably a 6-4. He can't use rockets, because if she jumps one, she gets a teleport into vortex. He doesn't really have that many approach options so batgirl can just bola cancel and build meter all she wants. She outdamages him both midscreen and corner. His vortex doesn't work against her as db2 and df2 are both viable wakeups. Cartwheel eats through MB f3 so that doesn't work either.

It's not a terrible MU, but it is in batgirl's favour.

Makes sense..

 

[afrozilla86]

Just curious, what raven players are the g.l community playing that makes them feel at a disadvantage, I already gave up on this thread being valid and wanted some input cause with the exception of the notoriously bad streets of Gotham g.l ties raven in neutral circumstances fairly consistently when played right. She is a good character, but can not lockdown for long stretches of time, and both character's catch up factor leaves a lot to be desired.