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What is Wrong With These People!? - The U.S. Politics Discussion Thread

Purple Haze

Apprentice
It's called editing to prevent spamming with unnecessary posts, since you insist on posting two posts to address one...I have to do so. I edit because I want you to see it. Yeah, sure blah, blah pathetic accusations. Angry much? lol Keep it coming with the insults man, you got nothing, yeah I just call it how I see it. Deny it or accept it, I really don't give a shit at this point. No it's not what I want them to be, it's how they come off...again, have you critized the left at all? hmm NOPE! Point proven, but you're not afraid to hate on the right or those opposing Obama. Hardly delusional, I just call em how I see them. I'm not an extremist, or deranged. Like I said you hardly know me so just stop repeating yourself. Your entire post is one big flame now. Yeah, keep crying over a little avatar joke and call me an extremist.
Maybe you should stop and think what you write before you write it then it all wouldn't come flooding out like day old vomit.

You're the angry one who insults, like with my avatar. Again you're just copying and pasting stuff back I point out about you. You weren't joking, you were just flaming which is all you do as you don't have anything factual to say or add to the thread.

I haven't criticised anyone or anything apart from your lies. Again, pointing out your lies doesn't make anyone a liberal. All you do is scream 'liberal' at anyone who points out anything wrong you say. That's the behaviour of a mad person and doesn't make anyone a liberal.

No I wasn't the one who bumped the topic ^ but since you have me on ignore, you can't see that. *sigh* Honestly, at this point this topic should just be closed. It speaks for itself, we all know who stands where. It's just getting personal now for no reason.
The only one getting personal is you. Anyone can scroll back and see that for the last few days when you weren't here, we were all talking about the thread topic. Then you come in, start flaming and attacking people and their avatars and ruin the thread like you do with every other one you post in.
 

Espio

Kokomo
It doesn't need to be closed, the people flaming should recuse themselves from the discussion, being incapable of having a political discussion without flaming and personal attacks is sad.
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
I vote that we don't close the topic and just continue the discussion we were on before, which was about the current presidential race and voting. MKF do you have anything relevant to say on the topic of how this race will turn out, rather than discussing the candidates' political opinions?
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
I think Tim told me once he didn't like these topics(now I see why lol) that's why I mentioned that. I don't mind debating or discussing, agree/disagree whatever but I think I'll just ignore this one person if he continues to flame me at this point, I'm not going to flame back at this point. Not worth it.


Maybe you should stop and think what you write before you write it then it all wouldn't come blurting out like vomit.

You're the angry one who insults, like with my avatar. Again you're just copying and pasting stuff back I point out about you. You weren't joking, you were just flaming which is all you do as you don't have anything factual to say or add to the thread.

I haven't criticised anyone or anything apart from your lies. Again, pointing out your lies doesn't make anyone a liberal. All you do is scream 'liberal' at anyone who points out anything wrong you say. That's the behaviour of a mad person and doesn't make anyone a liberal.



The only one getting personal is you. Anyone can scroll back and see that for the last few days when you weren't here, we were all talking about the thread topic. Then you come in, start flaming and attacking people and their avatars and ruin the thread like you do with every other one you post in.
Maybe you should actually post a respectable argument instead of constantly flaming me now? I'm not angry, I'm actually amused right now at your hypocritical mentality.

You can call me "extremist nutjob, warped etc" but whenever anyone else stands up to you, you cry victim...go away please. Wow, so you call facts lies huh? Interesting...but typical from someone such as yourself. It's ok, I accept it. Just admit it, you're a lefty for Obama. lol Do you NOT like Obama?

Do tell, let's see if you can answer. And I never said "anyone is a liberal" clearly this proves you don't read what I post.



I vote that we don't close the topic and just continue the discussion we were on before, which was about the current presidential race and voting. MKF do you have anything relevant to say on the topic of how this race will turn out, rather than discussing the candidates' political opinions?

Well, typically religious topics and political get personal which is why I normally avoid them (but believe me if I knew this thread would caused such an uproar over me not liking Obama so much, I would go back in the past and not have posted at all)

Anyway, I honestly am not a Romney fan either, to me it's just a lesser of two evils at this point and politics in general are corrupt. The other stuff like gun control, abortion,drugs, national security etc I think we all have our personal views on that.
 

Purple Haze

Apprentice
Maybe you should actually post a respectable argument instead of constantly flaming me now? I'm not angry, I'm actually amused right now at your hypocritical mentality.

You can call me "extremist nutjob, warped etc" but whenever anyone else stands up to you, you cry victim...go away please. Wow, so you call facts lies huh? Interesting...but typical from someone such as yourself. It's ok, I accept it. Just admit it, you're a lefty for Obama. lol Do you NOT like Obama?

Do tell, let's see if you can answer. And I never said "anyone is a liberal" clearly this proves you don't read what I post.
Again you're just copying and pasting back me pointing out all you do is flame. You're the one coming on here attacking people, not anyone else. There is no hypocrisy.

You act like an extremist, attacking people's avatars, trying to tell them who they support, lying about things you've said. So that's what you are. Try acting like a normal person and people will treat you like one.

No, I am still not a liberal. The fact you scream 'liberal' at anyone who points out your lies is the best proof of your extremism and just one reason why no one takes you seriously.

Well, typically religious topics and political get personal which is why I normally avoid them (but believe me if I knew this thread would caused such an uproar over me not liking Obama so much, I would go back in the past and not have posted at all)
The only person getting personal is you. It's nothing whatsoever to do with not liking Obama. It's to do with you flaming people, you trying to make out everyone who corrects you is a liberal and you lying about things you say.
 

Lt. Boxy Angelman

I WILL EAT THIS GAME
Serious question.

When the teetering economies of the world, including ours, inevitably collapse, where would be the safest/unshittiest place to go? I don't know about you guys, but between the 8 years our country was run into the ground under Bush, and the drastic steps this administration seems to have taken to multiply these problems (had no clue about half the shit you mentioned, Abra, thank you for keeping an open mind informed), I want to at least have some measure of a backup plan in place in case everything does indeed go to hell in a handbasket.
Not going crazy or planning for armageddon or anything to that extent, but I'm really not thrilled about the future's bleak outlook, and I feel compelled to be prepared.

That being said...how do you guys feel about yesterday's win for gay civil rights?
I forget the doctor's name, he was responsible for the study/legal precedent for denying gays' rights in court, the reason the argument had been made for years that "gays can change," but I heard something to the effect of the anti-gay agenda losing its only solid scientific base; said doctor who went out of his way to apologize to the gay community and is currently trying to retract the article he'd written.

I'd call that a win.
 

Purple Haze

Apprentice
Serious question.

When the teetering economies of the world, including ours, inevitably collapse, where would be the safest/unshittiest place to go?
Somewhere remote. Anywhere obvious that is nice will just be flooded by people trying to escape the crap places.

As for gays changing, here's a story about a guy who had a stroke and turned gay as a result.

Damn you for making me blue!
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Again you're just copying and pasting back me pointing out all you do is flame. You're the one coming on here attacking people, not anyone else. There is no hypocrisy.

You act like an extremist, attacking people's avatars, trying to tell them who they support, lying about things you've said. So that's what you are. Try acting like a normal person and people will treat you like one.

No, I am still not a liberal. The fact you scream 'liberal' at anyone who points out your lies is the best proof of your extremism and just one reason why no one takes you seriously.
And what are you exactly? If I'm "an extremist" you are what? Perhaps an extremist yourself? Because I must say the only people who have ever called me "an extremists" have been extreme themselves to some degree. Otherwise, most people refer to me as a righty or conservative.

Ok... Let's see how you've attacked me of late:

-calling me warped because of my views being different then yours
-facts I've posted you ignore and call lies
-You swear you're not a "liberal" yet you act like one defending Obama because you don't want to admit it for some odd reason and instead choose to lecture, bash me on so
-You agree with Revolver often himself who admits he's a democrat and liberal on a lot of things(at least he admits it), so seriously why don't you just admit it already? I'd give you more credit if you did.
-Calling me an extremist a million times, yet you're crying over me bringing up your purple crab hobby...
-I've never told anyone who to support or made anyone, so that's a lie.
-Lastly, nobody's "normal" normal is merely relative term and everyone's different. I used to know a guy who thought normal was "getting high 24/7 and trying to rape girls" in high school, you're telling me that's normal? Exactly.
-You totally ignored my question....which tells me all I need to know. Thanks.

You need to seriously A. accept and respect others views different then your own B. Stop calling others extremists when they're not C. Agree to disagree

I'm more then willing to do so if you are, but if I'm being respectful and not flaming you and you still choose to do so to me I can't help you there. That's your choice and you're telling me you don't want to have a respectful debate, but instead just flame me.
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
That being said...how do you guys feel about yesterday's win for gay civil rights?
I forget the doctor's name, he was responsible for the study/legal precedent for denying gays' rights in court, the reason the argument had been made for years that "gays can change," but I heard something to the effect of the anti-gay agenda losing its only solid scientific base; said doctor who went out of his way to apologize to the gay community and is currently trying to retract the article he'd written.

I'd call that a win.
Can you find me a news story or something? I can't find anything about this. The only figure I consider relevant in today's anti-gay debate is Peter Sprigg, but I didn't see anything about him.

edit: Nevermind, found it. Robert Spitzer. I read his study a while ago but didn't recall the researcher. Very, very good to see him recognize the problems with it.

MKF30 don't even start trying to talk about facts lol. "marijuana kills brain cells" smh...
 

RagingNight

Kombatant
-Lastly, nobody's "normal" normal is merely relative term and everyone's different. I used to know a guy who thought normal was "getting high 24/7 and trying to rape girls" in high school, you're telling me that's normal? Exactly.
This is one of the worst examples I have seen this year. This isn't a strawman argument, this is the fucking strawman jumping on the camel and breaking its back.


-You swear you're not a "liberal" yet you act like one defending Obama because you don't want to admit it for some odd reason
So all people defending Obama is a "liberal"? How does that even make fucking sense?

-calling me warped because of my views being different then yours
No you're fucking stupid for using the whole "raping girls" example to defend that people's view of the word "normal" are different.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Can you find me a news story or something? I can't find anything about this. The only figure I consider relevant in today's anti-gay debate is Peter Sprigg, but I didn't see anything about him.

edit: Nevermind, found it. Robert Spitzer. I read his study a while ago but didn't recall the researcher. Very, very good to see him recognize the problems with it.

MKF30 don't even start trying to talk about facts lol. "marijuana kills brain cells" smh...
lol, would you like me to post links proving so dude? Seriously, they DO, drinking also does but not the same degree as weed. Drinking will fuck up your liver first before anything if done often. Seriously, this one guy once told me trying to justify and defend weed "Weed is healthier then Cigs man cause of less carcinogens" hmm, that's interesting because while weed may have a lesser chance of lung cancer, you're still harming your body via the brain, bronchial tubes taking in any smoke is bad for you....

http://www.marijuana.com/threads/on-the-carcinogenicity-of-marijuana-smoke.245844/

The only reason why you don't see many cases of people dying or getting very sick from weed is because it's illegal in most places, but sure make it legal and watch that number grow lol. There is also different levels of weed, if someone smokes the most powerful version of weed or even generic synthesized weed(which recently was outlawed in NYC) it CAN kill them, harm them or put them in the hospital.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/11/18/what-is-synthetic-pot-and-whys-it-causing-heart-attacks-in-teenagers/

http://drug.addictionblog.org/does-synthetic-weed-cause-death/


Normal variations of weed/marijuana causing ill effects or death:

Proof that when smoked often enough, it causes increase in heart attacks and strokes as well as kills brain cells...
http://lastblogger.com/archives/909

http://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.edu/2009/MarijuanaBrain.htm

http://dreaminglife.org/does-marijuana-kill-brain-cells/

Still believe "marijuana doesn't effect or kill brain cells"? lol
 

Lt. Boxy Angelman

I WILL EAT THIS GAME
Can you find me a news story or something? I can't find anything about this. The only figure I consider relevant in today's anti-gay debate is Peter Sprigg, but I didn't see anything about him.
I'm gonna google it in a moment...it was on Rachel Maddow last night (MSNBC, the only news network I can fucking stomach), and I felt waves of joy. Not just for the gays, but for the satisfaction of knowing the anti-gays just lost their only leg to stand on. I can't remember the last time I watched the news and heard something positive.

Also: I'd love to debate anyone, in this day and age, who's against the legalization, or at least the decriminalization, of marijuana.
There is no good reason. None. At least not in a global economy where cigarettes, tobacco and alcohol make more money than could possibly be done without. i'd love to know what the fuck is so special about pot that it's the least harmful/detrimental of the group, probably less than the rest put together, has an entire widely-organized culture, lobbyists and congressmen in support of it, the number of which would probably grow exponentially if someone significant would speak on its behalf (I'm looking at you, Bill Clinton), we live in a society where people have WAY bigger things to worry about than the stoners next door...I don't get it.
 

Purple Haze

Apprentice
And what are you exactly? If I'm "an extremist" you are what? Perhaps an extremist yourself? Because I must say the only people who have ever called me "an extremists" have been extreme themselves to some degree. Otherwise, most people refer to me as a righty or conservative.

Ok... Let's see how you've attacked me of late:

-calling me warped because of my views being different then yours
-facts I've posted you ignore and call lies
-You swear you're not a "liberal" yet you act like one defending Obama because you don't want to admit it for some odd reason and instead choose to lecture, bash me on so
-You agree with Revolver often himself who admits he's a democrat and liberal on a lot of things(at least he admits it), so seriously why don't you just admit it already? I'd give you more credit if you did.
-Calling me an extremist a million times, yet you're crying over me bringing up your purple crab hobby...
-I've never told anyone who to support or made anyone, so that's a lie.
-Lastly, nobody's "normal" normal is merely relative term and everyone's different. I used to know a guy who thought normal was "getting high 24/7 and trying to rape girls" in high school, you're telling me that's normal? Exactly.
-You totally ignored my question....which tells me all I need to know. Thanks.

You need to seriously A. accept and respect others views different then your own B. Stop calling others extremists when they're not C. Agree to disagree

I'm more then willing to do so if you are, but if I'm being respectful and not flaming you and you still choose to do so to me I can't help you there. That's your choice and you're telling me you don't want to have a respectful debate, but instead just flame me.
There you go again with your extremist mentality MKF.

You're the one who attacks people, not the other way around.

I haven't defended Obama in one single post yet you lie and say I have.

I'll say it again as your extremist mentality needs to be told repeatedly it seems. I am not a liberal. The fact you keep telling someone who they support to try and push your own agenda is the act of a mental person. You don't tell people who they support. They will tell you. Keep acting like a mental deranged extremist and people will keep pointing it out.

And there you go again talking about my avatar and trying to make out it's a hobby because I picked a random image from Google. This is more proof of your flaming extremist mentality - attacking people based on their avatar for no reason at all.

Once again you post nothing useful. You just lie, deny your extremist mentality while proving it, attack people based on their avatar, try to make out people are liberals for exposing your lies and basically you show the world why everyone dismisses you as the most ignorant person on the site.

You keep asking why you are an extremist, this latest post of yours is more proof of it.
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
lol, would you like me to post links proving so dude? Seriously, they DO, drinking also does but not the same degree as weed. Drinking will fuck up your liver first before anything if done often.
Yes, post the studies proving it kills brain cells. Apparently me posting scientific proof to the contrary meant nothing to your ninja "no it aint" skills.

Let me give you a hint though, there aren't any. Unless you count the flawed 50 year old ones that I mentioned.
 

Purple Haze

Apprentice
So all people defending Obama is a "liberal"? How does that even make fucking sense?
The thing is I didn't even defend Obama. MKF is a loon. If anyone points out his lies he just rants at them that they are an Obama loving liberal even if they never mentioned him.

No you're fucking stupid for using the whole "raping girls" example to defend that people's view of the word "normal" are different.
You're obviously an Obama loving liberal for calling MKF stupid! Welcome to the club.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Revolver,
The only reason why you don't see many cases of people dying or getting very sick from weed is because it's illegal in most places, but sure make it legal and watch that number grow lol. There is also different levels of weed, if someone smokes the most powerful version of weed or even generic synthesized weed(which recently was outlawed in NYC) it CAN kill them, harm them or put them in the hospital.
Normal variations of weed/marijuana causing ill effects or death:
Proof that when smoked often enough, it causes increase in heart attacks and strokes as well as kills brain cells...
Still believe "marijuana doesn't effect or kill brain cells"? lol



@Purple, wrong. I asked you to post why I'm an extremist and what are you exactly? You dodged both questions like the plague...yeah, I think I'll be putting you on ignore now because I'm tired of your ridiculous, childish posts and claims.

tsk, tsk, tsk you see you just prove my point guy. Again, you're ignoring my entire post and just "calling me extremist" seriously, is that all you're going to post at this point? No, nobody tells me anything. I can think for myself thank you very much. Good god, I don't give a shit about your avatar anymore... you can like purple dildos for all I care. Yes, you picked a random image from google, that's lovely(ask me if I care now) you keep repeating yourself over and over just like you did with the Saudi king bs...

Yeah, well attacking people calling them extremists out of sheer stupidity and difference in opinion isn't nice either. Please don't lecture me about ignorance, you're ignorance on 2 legs. No that proves nothing, again you just post lies and dodge basic questions. I asked your TWICE now who do you support, do you support Obama and twice you ignored it lol. That's what I thought. Am I an extremist? No. I just don't like or can't stand people with YOUR mentality...

P.S. do you have anything other then calling me a loon and/or extremist? Just curious?

BTW, feel free to flame on all you want dude because from here on out I'm ignoring you. I gave you a chance to agree to disagree, you failed to take it. Have fun living in a life full of ignorance and hate.
 

Purple Haze

Apprentice
Revolver,

The only reason why you don't see many cases of people dying or getting very sick from weed is because it's illegal in most places, but sure make it legal and watch that number grow lol. There is also different levels of weed, if someone smokes the most powerful version of weed or even generic synthesized weed(which recently was outlawed in NYC) it CAN kill them, harm them or put them in the hospital.
Normal variations of weed/marijuana causing ill effects or death:
Proof that when smoked often enough, it causes increase in heart attacks and strokes as well as kills brain cells...
Still believe "marijuana doesn't effect or kill brain cells"? lol


There you go again with your extremist mentality MKF.

You're the one who attacks people, not the other way around.

I haven't defended Obama in one single post yet you lie and say I have.

I'll say it again as your extremist mentality needs to be told repeatedly it seems. I am not a liberal. The fact you keep telling someone who they support to try and push your own agenda is the act of a mental person. You don't tell people who they support. They will tell you. Keep acting like a mental deranged extremist and people will keep pointing it out.

And there you go again talking about my avatar and trying to make out it's a hobby because I picked a random image from Google. This is more proof of your flaming extremist mentality - attacking people based on their avatar for no reason at all.

Once again you post nothing useful. You just lie, deny your extremist mentality while proving it, attack people based on their avatar, try to make out people are liberals for exposing your lies and basically you show the world why everyone dismisses you as the most ignorant person on the site.

You keep asking why you are an extremist, this latest post of yours is more proof of it.
tsk, tsk, tsk you see you just prove my point guy. Again, you're ignoring my entire post and just "calling me extremist" seriously, is that all you're going to post at this point? No, nobody tells me anything. I can think for myself thank you very much. Good god, I don't give a shit about your avatar anymore...like purple dildos for all I care. Yes, you picked a random image from google, that's lovely(ask me if I care now)

Yeah, well attacking people calling them extremists out of sheer stupidity and difference in opinion isn't nice either. Please don't lecture me about ignorance, you're ignorance on 2 legs. No that proves nothing, again you just post lies and dodge basic questions. I asked your TWICE now who do you support, do you support Obama and twice you ignored it lol. That's what I thought.
If you act like an extremist then that's what people will call you. Why do you think people shouldn't point it out? Stop blaming others for calling you out on your extremist behaviour. Like with the avatar crap. Don't attack people over their avatars and they won't point it out. It's like you think you can do as you please and no one is going to say anything.

You being ignorant doesn't make anyone else ignorant. That fact half the board have pointed out that's what you are shoud be a bit of a hint. I have already answered about Obama. The fact you don't read or only see what you want to see is yet more reason why people say the things they do about you.

People ganging up on MKF30 has become a Mortal Kombat community classic. It goes back to MKO and Mortal Kombat: Deception.

This man is either very, very stupid or one of the best trolls the internet has ever seen.
Fixed.
 

MaceWind

Crazy 88
People ganging up on MKF30 has become a Mortal Kombat community classic. It goes back to MKO and Mortal Kombat: Deception.

This man is either very, very stupid or one of the best trolls the internet has ever seen.
I am sensing a pattern...
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
People ganging up on MKF30 has become a Mortal Kombat community classic. It goes back to MKO and Mortal Kombat: Deception.

This man is either very, very stupid or one of the best trolls the internet has ever seen.
Says the troll who loves to add fuel to the flames....

People do so because they think it's the cool thing to do, in person? pfftt none of you would have the balls to say anything so humor me dude. How do I know this, well my connections have told me "everyone back on MKO and on here" who have issues with me, are like mice in person(shocker) And MK D? lol please.... People hated me for merely beating them with Dairou(dumb reasons) yet you, omg you were worshipped(amazing how popular vote makes a difference ehh?) Even so, I was still one of the best players on MK D xbox and feared, nobody could change that despite personal feelings and as for MKO I'm pretty sure you left as well and got banned by Crow or PR, for disagreeing with mods(oh the irony)

Hell I remember when you got on my case for being the most known Dairou player on Xbox because "your PSN pride" got the best of you, like really dude? You cared that much? lol And I'm pretty sure I(myself), trax told you guys about JTF how crazy he was but of course you'll never admit when I'm right and had to find out the hard way back on MKAC or whatever his site was(wouldn't want to look bad agreeing with MKF admitting he was right now would ya) that's ok.

Purple, you're on ignore dude anything you say is meaningless to me now so flame on all you want dude.



I am sensing a pattern...

Yeah, pattern. Wherever MKF goes, let's start shit with him. There's your pattern.

MKF is always the bad guy, for having an opinion different then others so let's gang up on him because "it's the cool thing to do" to fight with him(cage threads on MKU kind of attest to that) Some folks like Drama, me? I like having my own opinion(I'm so evil aren't I?)

Seriously dude, why do you think I left certain sites? I don't even know why Dave brought up MKO when it's a known fact nobody on here or MKU liked their "anal" rules with debates...

Granted, am I saying I'm perfect or innocent? Hardly, but I know when I'm actually wrong or right about something or in a case like MKU where you have biased mods or JTF's old site where he banned those who disagreed with him..really? lol Come on now. Besides, I'm on several sites, gaming, slingshots, car, comic sites etc and not banned on there, yet I'm just as firm on my views so tell me, if I'm always in the wrong then wouldn't I be banned from every site I go to?