At least you admit there is a possibility of it being the “real” document, but I’ve personally downloaded the document from WhiteHouse.gov (like I said previously), and looked at it, so it really insults my intelligence when you try and claim that we are analyzing “fakes.” The document is even confirmed multiple times of being from WhiteHouse.gov in the video itself. I still don’t believe you’ve even taken the time to watch it and claiming that we are doing some type of “notepad trick” is just desperate and pathetic.
You need to learn to read more carefully. I've always said that the notepad trick is one possible way to fake, I also said IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THIS. Please review everything I've written in relation to this, no where do you see me saying the entire site was faked. There's only you not understanding what I've written.
It sounds to me like you rely on this “Snopes” website to sleep better at night or something. I don’t need someone with “real credentials” to tell me that the PDF isn’t even a real scan of a document. There is no explanation for the layers, let alone the fraudulent hand writing that was added afterward on a computer, the document is what it is. Someone’s opinion, who you refer to as an “expert” is absolutely meaningless to me and millions of other Americans who have personally looked into this issue.
Unlike the wackjobs on YouTube, Snopes actually links back to references you can check out yourself.
And yes you do need someone with credentials to tell you if an electronic document may be forged or not; you don't have the technical knowlege to form any kind of informed opinion yourself. Its the same as you trying to form an opinion on the safety of certain nuclear reactor designs. You can't because you're not an expert in the field, you don't have the knowledge.
And if you actually bothered to read the link to Snope and really understand it, you'd know that the fact that you can reproduce whats in the video is no suprise at all. ITS HOW THE GODDAMN TECHNOLOGY WORKS. In other words, the fact that you found layers in the PDF means NOTHING as far as its authenticity goes.
Again, really learn how to read, if you even bothered to read the links I provided.
After seeing your logic, I’m starting to question who the wackjob really is, to be honest. Just that one video I posted alone has over 1.3 million views on YouTube in only 1 year, and that’s only one video. It also has 4 times the amount of likes as dislikes which I find to be incredible, considering how touchy of a subject this is for a lot of people.
Make no mistake, its you. You're ignoring science left and right because you don't like what they're telling you. Do you also believe the world is flat, or that the earth is the center of the universe? If you were alive in the 16th or 17th centuary, I'd be you'd be one of the ones doubting someone that's coming along with evidence that neither of those tings are true, because you don't like it.
For me personally, and in the court of law, video eye witness testimony outweighs…umm…the zero explanation you give here, especially when there are multiple videos of eye witnesses saying the same thing.
You're talking about a video taped appearence? That doesn't make the person on the tape any more reliable. Also, video can lie as well, you really need to see an event from multiple angles and distances, or you may miss something crucial.
Again you ignore science which shows WE FORM BIASED MEMORIES. This isn't up for debate, the only thing that is is how much we really should be relying on it. I'll let science guide in in that regard, but it may be that we can't rely on it at all. Science has influenced our courts before, and the Supreme Court is deciding (or has, I don't recall) this very issue. And they may get it wrong too, we'll have to see.
Well since you say “agreeing to disagree” isn’t allowed here, and since I refuse to result to name calling like you have and “another guy” here has, that only leaves me with one other option, which is…I FLAT OUT DISAGREE with you on these issues. Get over it.
Then you disagree with reality; again, you're delusional. You can have an opinion on whether we favor individual or group rights, there's no clear cut answer, but as to whether or not Obama's birth certificate is faked, there is only one right answer and that is that the certificate is authentic. To say otherwise is just as silly as saying you "disagee" with me that the earth is in fact spherical.
Is the nuclear power plant threat a real issue? It is. That’s probably all you and I will agree on.
The only threat from nuclear power is that we aren't building new plants, with even better reactor designs than those from the 60s. But as far as safety goes, you're more likely to die in your car today than from effects of a nuclear plant.
