M2Dave
Zoning Master
I am hearing you cannot punish if the regular air laser is done very low to the ground, but I have yet to test myself since I use neither character.
I am hearing you cannot punish if the regular air laser is done very low to the ground, but I have yet to test myself since I use neither character.
Someone flawless blocked it on me. Next time they tried they ate a fully heated 400 dmg command grab. They did not try it again
While the mindgame has more layers, you can break it down to d3 again:
Thank youdamn, this one tier list is pretty good and solid indeed .... very realistic , well done, sir !
You keep spouting this with nothing to back it up...
His projectile is not "serviceable". It's downright ridiculous in the utility it has.
In my opinion this is the best one so far. My question is do you think the game should be balanced around the characters in A or in A+?Here's my tier list :
I don't like the "S+" tier and I don't think S tier should have more than 3 characters. So here's my reasoning for my list. The characters aren't arranged in a particular order
I used the best tournament variation for every character (or both if they are both viable)
S is reserved for characters with too many tools and/or overpowered tools. Geras (both variations) has too many of them and are all good. Erron Black has too many tools in 52 Kard Pickup. His Scud shot should be removed without nerfing it and replaced by another move. The Scud shot should be 2 slots and added in the third variation. Sonya Blade (Ring Master) would be A+ with her damage, but her projectile is too powerful, and the Energy Ring cancel should not allow her to be safe on a mixup in the corner and at the same time allowing for a juggle in the corner. It's one of them, not both, so S tier.
A+ is reserved for very solid characters but not strong enough to be considered as the top 3. Scorpion (both variations) and Sub Zero (Dead of Winter) are both contenders for the S tier but there are stronger characters as listed above. Cassie Cage (Digital Soldier) has a lot of useful tools and is dangerous anywhere in the neutral. Baraka (both variations) is insanely good, has only a few tools but they are really really good, he would be in S in a heartbeat if the tier had available slots.
A is for characters I consider as "balanced", not too weak, but not too strong. Some of them are slightly stronger than other in that tier, like Cetrion, but didn't know who to swap in A+ to include her.
A- I usually don't like "-" version of tiers, but A- is a tier for characters that would fit into the A category if they didn't have whiff issues on most of their strings. Johnny Cage, Kung Lao and Kano would be A to me if their hitboxes were good.
B - The B tier has the character with the least tools or at least unefficient tools at the moment. It has the weakest characters in the game.
C - I don't really know why I created that tier, I was probably influenced by other lists that rank her in her own tier. She is not far from the B tier tho.
Unreactable super high damage 50/50s, and one of the best projectiles in the game.why do you guys rate sonya that high? Not that I'm contradicting but I've been setting up my apartment since april and still don't have a stable internet connection. My only sparring partner is the game's IA
I just love jumping over her projectile and then it got amplified and I land on the second one for a lovely Krushing Blow. >.>
Agreed. Not to say he isn't an absolute defensive wall, but once its broken he really crumbles in certain matchups
Sandtrap does reach full screen.
Damn you’re right, didn’t know he had the up version, I thought the forward version was the longest. That’s what I get for labbing him for like an hour and using him based off that, lmao. My mistake.
As a Cetrion main 100% she's not B tier. One of the only few strong zoners w/ a teleport and decent damage if you can out gimmick them. Few extremely hard matchups like Reborn scorpion and maybe Geras/Sonya. she's mid to high A tier for sure.
That feeling when Sonya is so broken that she's listed as S tier Twice
Yup, definitely those the most. Also Shao Kahn players were really mad.I'll bet the Kotal community was livid
Probably the Noob and Jade communities too.
As a Kano player I honestly completely agree with everything he said about Kano. The character legitimately has no tools in many situations.
Everyone, including Sonic Fox, can be wrong once in a while, but I thought he gave justifiable reasons for each character placement. He did not downplay his characters or up play the characters he dislikes fighting against as every TYM character forum does. LOL.
LOL. Give me a break! I was editing while he was talking and switching between the tier list and gameplay.That feeling when Sonya is so broken that she's listed as S tier Twice
Did you buy into that Jade explanation?
I honestly don't disagree, just putting it out there that he in particular has had some outlandish calls on certain character's placements
