Thats when you grab, jump back and air quake, empty jump back into db3, crossover jip, etc. Hell if they're waiting for a poke then you could easily throw in b1. There are more options than people realize that keep tremor in a good situation, and the enemy in a bad one, you just need to be creative. Stop being so doom and gloom, s2 as a high is not as good but saying "the match is pretty much lost" is preposterous.
^^^^ this guy gets it ^^^^^
tremor forum has been 90% complaining since patch, most of which is unneeded nonsense.
no ones 2 is mid, get over it people.
im glad people are trying to poke under it cause they can hold a ex shatter launcher for they troubles
its still works just like pre patch after pokes on hit, boulder on block and we even got two new ways to jail people with bf2 and ex bf4 getting more plus frames than they had before.
my guess is most of the complaints are from a online point of view where more than 10+ frames on hit doesnt always give a 10 frame normal
the near dozen buffs and two fixes he got should be more than enough to make up for ex shatter being +5 on block instead of +10 and losing the mid.
cmon guys, dont be like "insert most recent crying character community here"