TOP TEN MK9 Mistakes

[B W1zZ]

1. Nerfing Raiden's Teleport
2. Nerfing Raiden's Superman Startup from 8 frames to 10 frames
3. Nerfing Raiden's B312 to be negative on block
4. Nerfing Raiden's 334 to be negative on block
5. Allowing Raiden's B312 and 334 to be interruptible
6. Nerfing Vicinity Blast to zero on block instead of slight advantage
7. 3D Hitboxes
8. Kuh Bawl 2NDC on high hitbox characters
9. Resets
10. Kenshi 8 frame SC

 

[josh99]

UE is a 3D engine. you do not want 3d hitboxes in a 2d game.

 

[Rathalos]

UE is a 3D engine. you do not want 3d hitboxes in a 2d game.

A "3D" engine can have 2D hit boxes, MVC3 runs on MT framework, a 3D engine, SF4 runs on a Proprietary engine created by DIMPS, its a 3D engine, in fact, at one point SF4 had 3D hitboxes, but Seth Killian pushed Capcom to change it to 2D.

Edit: A link talking about the SF4 situation, Seth basically says the 3D hitboxes didn't feel right.

 

[aldazo]

I disagree
This is possibly the worst MK in therms of music, there is no song in this game that would kept on my head and give me hype to fight on such stages every day long besides living forest.

These are very good:

1. Shang Tsung' Throne Room
2. Temple

and

3. Armory
4. Graveyard
5. Rooftop

are way better than the klassic ones.

 

[Cossner]

UE is a 3D engine. you do not want 3d hitboxes in a 2d game.

You can have 2d planes with 2d physics in a 3d engine. Kid you have no idea how this works.

 

[Seven]

Another thing I would change is the fact that, at the beginning of a fight, you gain meter from getting the first hit. It's a nice idea, but when fighting someone like Cyrax, you realize that if he gets the first hit, it can be game over!

 

[josh99]

You can have 2d planes with 2d physics in a 3d engine. Kid you have no idea how this works.

Until I see a successful fighting game with minimal problems then I will stick to my theory. The hitboxes are FUBAR in MK

 

[Cossner]

Until I see a successful fighting game with minimal problems then I will stick to my theory. The hitboxes are FUBAR in MK

Please tell me one game you've played where "hitboxes weren't FUBAR".

 

[josh99]

KOF13

 

[Cossner]

KOF13

God you're so lost... Why am I even arguing with you?

 

[josh99]

The hitboxes are actually consistent in that game unlike MK9. Changing the costume doesn't change your hitbox in KOF lol.

 

[Rathalos]

Until I see a successful fighting game with minimal problems then I will stick to my theory. The hitboxes are FUBAR in MK

SF4 and MVC3, also probably Tatsunoko, I don't know enough about that game to confirm though. All 3D games with 2D hitboxes.
Its a MK problem, not a Engine problem.