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Top 5 NRS players of all time

In your opinion, who is your top 5 NRS players who is great at ALL 3 games?

  • Sonicfox

  • DJT

  • ForeverKing

  • MIT

  • Foxy Grampa

  • Slayer

  • Wound Cowboy

  • REO

  • Perfect Legend

  • Pig of the Hut

  • Other (if so, reply in the thread who)

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Aqueous_Echo

Aqueous_Echo

Kombatant
Xxonemanwolfpax said:
It was logical for the first 2 pages then salty people over run the thread.
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Some people want this community to wake the hell up and step up. Top players all the way down to the bottom newbies.

People care more about Hollywood status, memes, salt, and ego stroking than actually doing anything for the community. I see graphs, and numbers comparing NRS to other FGC's and we literally suck at helping our scene thrive.

Whatever it is people like to do right now, it isn't working. Everyone saying "I'm gonna keep doing X or Y" you are the problem. I can certainly tell how in the past we are because we still want props for MK9 and IGAU1. The games are gone.

Results = facts
Results in current game = best in current game.

The more we live in the past, the more we ignore the future.
 
Xxonemanwolfpax

Xxonemanwolfpax

LFF_PAX
Aqueous_Echo said:
Some people want this community to wake the hell up and step up. Top players all the way down to the bottom newbies.

People care more about Hollywood status, memes, salt, and ego stroking than actually doing anything for the community. I see graphs, and numbers comparing NRS to other FGC's and we literally suck at helping our scene thrive.

Whatever it is people like to do right now, it isn't working. Everyone saying "I'm gonna keep doing X or Y" you are the problem. I can certainly tell how in the past we are because we still want props for MK9 and IGAU1. The games are gone.

Results = facts
Results in current game = best in current game.

The more we live in the past, the more we ignore the future.
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Realest thing i've seen all day
 
Dankster Morgan

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Imo fox and DJT are no brainers for top 2. Pig and Cowboy have to be somewhere in the top 5 as well. The last spot really is a toss up between king, reo, and mit
 
KingHippo

KingHippo

Alternative-Fact Checker
Aqueous_Echo said:
People care more about Hollywood status, memes, salt, and ego stroking than actually doing anything for the community.
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They care because that's the fun part of being a competitor. The unique thrill of playing a 1v1 competitive game is that it comes down to one person being better than the other, and the competitive talk that comes with it is what people love. It's like being a boxing or MMA fan; you have your favorites, you have the people you hate, the people that are overrated, etc.

Of course the community will grow (and it has exponentially if you've been around a while to see when it was being played in bathrooms), but to get people to tune in you need that fun drama. The human drama is what attracts people who wouldn't normally care.

The bad type of drama is when both top players and loud, opinionated scrubs go unregulated and the forums become an echo chamber. I guarantee you 16 Bit got more likes coming in here and telling everyone they were wrong then he has posting an official post about the game's mechanics.
 
Aqueous_Echo

Aqueous_Echo

Kombatant
KingHippo said:
They care because that's the fun part of being a competitor. The unique thrill of playing a 1v1 competitive game is that it comes down to one person being better than the other, and the competitive talk that comes with it is what people love. It's like being a boxing or MMA fan; you have your favorites, you have the people you hate, the people that are overrated, etc.

Of course the community will grow (and it has exponentially if you've been around a while to see when it was being played in bathrooms), but to get people to tune in you need that fun drama. The human drama is what attracts people who wouldn't normally care.

The bad type of drama is when both top players and loud, opinionated scrubs go unregulated and the forums become an echo chamber. I guarantee you 16 Bit got more likes coming in here and telling everyone they were wrong then he has posting an official post about the game's mechanics.
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Audience is completely different than retention.
 
KingHippo

KingHippo

Alternative-Fact Checker
Aqueous_Echo said:
Audience is completely different than retention.
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There are many factors there, and I've already gone over them before. Chief among them is these games are brutally unfriendly to non-hardcore followers, which is something we actually can't fix as a community. All we can do is provide a consistently engaging scene for people to look at and go "I wanna be a part of that," and like any other competitive battling sport, trash talk and favoritism are top attributes that people like to engage in.

I'm not saying it needs to get to Smash levels where top player worship is out of control, but no one can deny the spice of life that shows whenever the old guards gets mixed up in some competitive chest puffing.
 
The_Tile

The_Tile

Your hole is mine!
Pig Of The Hut said:
Nope

Look at srk: no top players post, there's a reason. 99% of people posting are aids. Also ask many people and they will tell you NAZI mods stopping top players from regulating ended that dream years ago.
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I'm out of the loop with the Nazi mods situation, I've heard whispers but don't know the whole story. I was only a lurker back-a-day in the MK9 and most of the Injustice era.

I do kinda understand why top players would leave I just think it sucks big time for the community members who actually wanna listen/learn, and I don't think it's the best solution to the problem. But if Nazi mods were stopping the regulation not much I can say really.
 
CrimsonShadow

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
A lot of 'top players' became non-stop complaining pains in the butt around the end of MK9, continued on to bash Injustice and are now bashing MKX and not really contributing much positivity to the scene.

You all complain about this privately because you know it's true.

From seeing how bad the Twitter posts have been all throughout MKX I don't really miss it (it's clear the problem wasn't just TYM). And if all these guys were still here, you'd still have to deal with those pointless arguments and crying on a daily basis. Now you just see the same nonsense passing by in the Twitter feed.

The few lone, quieter voices of reason would always be shouted down by the gaggle of top players who seem to be able to play the game well but can't put together a consistent line of logic.

Between here and Twitter there hasn't really been much difference at all.

I'm just hoping that in Injustice 2 people can learn to calm down, have fun and play the game, and challenge each orher competitively again.
 
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Matix218

Matix218

Get over here!
16 Bit said:
IMAGINE competing in a game where you stop getting props for anything not current and all time spent feeling yourself must be used to help the community. No sir I don't like it.
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I wish you could still "Don King" it up with TYM posts and podcast drama and not have it be a conflict of interest for your job... I am sure you hear this a lot but it is just not the same around here without you stirring the pot on a regular basis :(
 
Raidenwins

Raidenwins

Raiden Practitioner
I am going to throw in my Top 5 here too, just to make things more interesting:

1. Sonic Fox
2. Perfect Legend
3. DJT
4. REO
5. Forever King

I am basing this first on EVO placings and second, on major tournaments.
 
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ForeverKing

ForeverKing

Patreon.com/MK_ForeverKing
So I'm going to go ahead and spice up this thread a little more, and explain my top 3 and top 5

Sonicfox is the obvious number 1, I don't think there's any debate here. He was #1 in the world in MKX, #1 in the world in Injustice, and probably like top 20 in MK9. But just being #1 in the world in 2/3 NRS games gives him that #1 spot for NRS games in general.

DJT is the obvious number 2. His all-time rank in MKX has to be top 5, he was top 3 for like the whole first year of MKX. In Injustice his overall rank is around top 15 but he got two Evo medals which nobody else besides Theo did, and in MK9 he was probably top 5 in the world. I think he has 5 NRS Evo medals by himself which is the most Evo medals for NRS games of all the NRS players.

I put myself at number 3, and I'll explain why it's obvious in my opinion. In MKX I won multiple stacked majors, I've beaten the top 3 players numerous times (Sonic DJT Foxy), and for most of 2015 I was super consistent with top 8's. My all time rank in MKX is probably top 10, but for a long time I was top 4. In Injustice I was consistent with top 8's from day 1 until the game died, my all time rank was top 4. In MK9 I had a case for top 10 but if I wasn't then at the lowest I was for sure #11-12. I have two Evo medals, although they are both from one game.

In my opinion the only person close to taking that #3 from me would be MIT, not Wound Cowboy. I don't see a possible debate for Cowboy being a better NRS player than me, he may have MKX over me (and that's not even for sure, that's debatable) but I for sure have MK9 and Injustice over him. In MK9 and Injustice I beat way more top players than he did, placed higher at tournaments that we both attended way more times than him, and beat him head to head 100% of the time. So if I have two NRS games over Cowboy and he only has 1 over me, then how could he be a better overall NRS player? I don't see the debate. The debate with me and Cowboy is who has the better MKX record, not who has better NRS in general record.

As for MIT, I would say I have Injustice over him for sure. I most likely have MKX over him and MK9 is debatable. For MKX MIT did get Evo top 8 and was super consistent with top 8 in general in 2015, the only top 8's MIT missed all of 2015 was Combo Breaker and NEC. But my track record for MKX 2015 wasn't bad either, I won majors and I beat players that MIT never beat like DJT and Sonic. But then he stopped playing 2016 and I continued to place top 8 at CEO and NEC, as well as get 9th at Evo. For MK9 I have two Evo top 8's compared to MIT's one Evo top 8, and I probably traveled and placed a little more in general. MK9 is super debatable between me and MIT especially because I don't have our full MK9 records. But as far as results go I'd have to give the nod to myself for Injustice and MKX over MIT. MIT does have 3 Evo medals compared to my 2, and they are all 3 in different games compared to my 2 evo medals being in 1 game so there's that.

So the #4 and #5 spots are between Cowboy and MIT. MIT is beating Cowboy in MK9, Cowboy is beating MIT in Injustice, but who has MKX over the other? It's hard to say, MIT's super conistent resume in 2015 is slightly more impressive then Cowboy's consistent resume in 2016. But then again Cowboy won EGL Dallas, a stacked major. MIT does have 3 Evo medals to Cowboy's 2 Evo medals. It's a tough call but I give the slight edge to MIT

So there you have it. If you want me to give a detailed explanation for #6-10 like this let me know :)
 
Aqueous_Echo

Aqueous_Echo

Kombatant
KingHippo said:
There are many factors there, and I've already gone over them before. Chief among them is these games are brutally unfriendly to non-hardcore followers, which is something we actually can't fix as a community. All we can do is provide a consistently engaging scene for people to look at and go "I wanna be a part of that," and like any other competitive battling sport, trash talk and favoritism are top attributes that people like to engage in.

I'm not saying it needs to get to Smash levels where top player worship is out of control, but no one can deny the spice of life that shows whenever the old guards gets mixed up in some competitive chest puffing.
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Hype is excellent. Heat is excellent. Good guy vs bad guy is excellent. Especially if it draws people in to watch... Let's not pretend we have a great way for newer people to come into the scene.

TYM in spurts is a great place for them, but tbh 90% of people I know never come here anymore (veteran or newbie) for all kinds of reasons. TYMs mission is great, but the community is just unwelcoming most times, and if we arent taking in more people than are leaving, we have a problem. There's reasons every other fgc for the most part is higher on the totem pole than us. I'm just hoping we are open to change it.
 
cR WoundCowboy

cR WoundCowboy

WoundCowbae <3
YOMI FOREVER KING said:
So I'm going to go ahead and spice up this thread a little more, and explain my top 3 and top 5

Sonicfox is the obvious number 1, I don't think there's any debate here. He was #1 in the world in MKX, #1 in the world in Injustice, and probably like top 20 in MK9. But just being #1 in the world in 2/3 NRS games gives him that #1 spot for NRS games in general.

DJT is the obvious number 2. His all-time rank in MKX has to be top 5, he was top 3 for like the whole first year of MKX. In Injustice his overall rank is around top 15 but he got two Evo medals which nobody else besides Theo did, and in MK9 he was probably top 5 in the world. I think he has 5 NRS Evo medals by himself which is the most Evo medals for NRS games of all the NRS players.

I put myself at number 3, and I'll explain why it's obvious in my opinion. In MKX I won multiple stacked majors, I've beaten the top 3 players numerous times (Sonic DJT Foxy), and for most of 2015 I was super consistent with top 8's. My all time rank in MKX is probably top 10, but for a long time I was top 4. In Injustice I was consistent with top 8's from day 1 until the game died, my all time rank was top 4. In MK9 I had a case for top 10 but if I wasn't then at the lowest I was for sure #11-12. I have two Evo medals, although they are both from one game.

In my opinion the only person close to taking that #3 from me would be MIT, not Wound Cowboy. I don't see a possible debate for Cowboy being a better NRS player than me, he may have MKX over me (and that's not even for sure, that's debatable) but I for sure have MK9 and Injustice over him. In MK9 and Injustice I beat way more top players than he did, placed higher at tournaments that we both attended way more times than him, and beat him head to head 100% of the time. So if I have two NRS games over Cowboy and he only has 1 over me, then how could he be a better overall NRS player? I don't see the debate. The debate with me and Cowboy is who has the better MKX record, not who has better NRS in general record.

As for MIT, I would say I have Injustice over him for sure. I most likely have MKX over him and MK9 is debatable. For MKX MIT did get Evo top 8 and was super consistent with top 8 in general in 2015, the only top 8's MIT missed all of 2015 was Combo Breaker and NEC. But my track record for MKX 2015 wasn't bad either, I won majors and I beat players that MIT never beat like DJT and Sonic. But then he stopped playing 2016 and I continued to place top 8 at CEO and NEC, as well as get 9th at Evo. For MK9 I have two Evo top 8's compared to MIT's one Evo top 8, and I probably traveled and placed a little more in general. MK9 is super debatable between me and MIT especially because I don't have our full MK9 records. But as far as results go I'd have to give the nod to myself for Injustice and MKX over MIT. MIT does have 3 Evo medals compared to my 2, and they are all 3 in different games compared to my 2 evo medals being in 1 game so there's that.

So the #4 and #5 spots are between Cowboy and MIT. MIT is beating Cowboy in MK9, Cowboy is beating MIT in Injustice, but who has MKX over the other? It's hard to say, MIT's super conistent resume in 2015 is slightly more impressive then Cowboy's consistent resume in 2016. But then again Cowboy won EGL Dallas, a stacked major. MIT does have 3 Evo medals to Cowboy's 2 Evo medals. It's a tough call but I give the slight edge to MIT

So there you have it. If you want me to give a detailed explanation for #6-10 like this let me know :)
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MKX isn't debatable. Last I remember, I mopped you up for my second EVO medal. Thanks for that by the way, it's hanging on my wall right now.
 
ForeverKing

ForeverKing

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16 Bit said:
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I'm comparing them right now and they look pretty close to me

MIT 2015 MKX
Midwest Championships 4th
The CommonWealth 5th
ECT 3rd
CEO 2nd
EVO 4th
EGL 5th
Summer Jam 4th
TFC 5th
Defend the North 7th
NEC 5th

Wound Cowboy 2016 MKX
KIT 4th
Combo Breaker 7th
CEO 7th
EVO 5th
SCR 2nd

I would say MIT's 2015 record beats Cowboy's 2016 record. More top 8's, higher place at EVO, etc. They're close, I'm trying to be the most unbias I can but I still give the edge to MIT
 
ForeverKing

ForeverKing

Patreon.com/MK_ForeverKing
cR WoundCowboy said:
Let's also not forget the "true test of skill" ft10 where I came into your place and took your scalp.
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Yeah a first to 10 is a true test of skill, I agree. And when the final score in first to 10 is 10-9 down to the last round, it's pretty clear that the skill was pretty damn equal. There was no back blown out, no 13-0, just a super close set. If I would have made one more right decision or you would have made one more wrong decision history would have been different.
 
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