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Let's hope demo the problem child gets some fixing with this new patch.
Let's hope demo the problem child gets some fixing with this new patch.
This is very agreeable and I can't argue with it at all. I would like skydrop to be more reliable though. Everyone else has reliable armors.
(If someone is crouch blocking in the corner and I am plus at all after a S4 say hello to the giant death sword into trance.) My PS4 got stolen so I can't check that but, you should always keep your options open to finding a way to get chip death rune out Ketchup put something out that demonstrated this. You can pretty safely close out a game with that if you have 2 bars left in the corner. I wonder also if the The Tile vortex with summoner can also make the chip rune safe. I haven't tried that.
That's cool and all, but D1 being only +3 on hit is still pretty shitty, especially being punishable on block. Jump over punch isn't a viable option after D1 because you're opponent recovers in time to anti-air before you get off the ground good. I know that Quan Chi is a good character on paper, but given the current state of the game he isn't that good. He's a well balanced character in a cheap ass game.
Something to note, the bat fireball (F+L) actually doesn't go away on hit.
See Michelangelo placing top 8 at EVO? Yea, the shit he does in those matches should be enough ALONG WITH the bullshit he has on paper. The character is fine and can compete with basically the whole cast.
anyone placing in top 8/16 is not an argument for character balance. a player can have success with a character despite him not being strong. slayer in guilty gear's widely considered one of the weakest chars (with potemkin and ram) yet hase made top 9 at EVO with him - no one suddenly jumped to say slayer's 'strong,' just that hase's good. same for FAB and potemkin, he wins tournaments but no one would dare say potemkin's even in top half of the cast.
Ok so first we'll touch on "Meter Dependent" Quan chi is not that meter dependent unless we're talking warlock, then yea he's pretty meter dependent but that's worth having the reversal for Quan when he needs it that desperately in some matchups. Next his neutral game is actually quite good, zoning for space control, one of the fastes NJPs in the game, a 6f d1, he can compete with a lot of other characters in a neutral sense. On to frame traps, while the nerfs hit him quite hard in this department, if you want frame traps you still have EX Skull and while you need a gap to make Runes plus, they can still be made plus, so his plus frames are in a good spot. On the "exact same offensive potential" this character has some of the craziest offensive potentials in the entire game, it's why his defense is so trash because one touch is all he needs to kill you. When i was referencing Michelangelo's success i wasnt saying "this guy got top 8, the character is op" im saying "look at the shit this character can do which got him to top 8." I am fully aware that placings doesnt mean strength but you also can't just flat out ignore placings either. And as far as sky drop...yea, that move might need some help but Quan isn't a character we want to be giving good armor outside of Warlock because if we do, we break the character entirely.
as i said before, that's not acceptable. he already has a designed reversal skill, it's simply just useless. saying 'he doesn't need it' is *not* acceptable design for something the devs clearly put in a game with a purpose. if "quan is a char we don't want to have good armor" then they shouldn't have giving him EX sky drop in the first place. but it was clearly designed with him intentionally having it, yet everyone just accepts that it's a useless move by design and says 'he doesn't need it anyways.' that is *NOT* acceptable game design.
The horse has 100% life, Quan is invincible as long as the horse is alive. You need to kill the horse before touching Quan
i never played quan to play a zoner, though. especially not since i don't think zoning's generally a consistent sole strategy in this game due to the abundant amount of armored gap closers/teleports that can be done on reaction.
#Don'tNerfTakeda keep the status CO
I'm sorry i forgot
if I ever get back into this game I'll make an entire list just for warlock I promise
So there you have it. You don't like zoning or have loyalty to the character. That's fine and you'll probably have a better time and more fun using someone else.
good luck.
All these things are hypotheticals. I play a lot of the characters in that list along with Quan and trust me when I say you can't react to a rune, lol. Sonya's grenades need nerfing (deh,lol), Johnny's shadow kick gives him nothing (and actually hurts his meta in A-list to save stamina while trying to get in so you can run cancel) and by then he's usually eaten more damage than what he gives to you in the shadow kick, Kano ball is hella unsafe and needs you to not be actually Rune-ing for him to jump first (even Instant air EX), Alien is fvcking Alien (you mentioned things he does to all the cast man, we all know he needs nerfs),rune hits Mileena out of her telekick if she tries to react and is full-combo punished if you know how to time you D3 rune after the follow up Sai (although this isn't easy), Ermac is a difficult match-up (sometimes that just happens man, hold it) and in Summoner jump back skull goes over D'vorah's puddle after which you can send in a bat and punish the counter zone attempt with 34%.
