actually he spent 0 bars to do it. It was meterless. He also in the same game hit a 34% meterless combo. So please stop telling me that the damage is relevant. Unless you're giving sub 50% combos you're still killing in 3-4 touches. Even Cassie with her 40% is killing in 3. So please, please, please stop talking about the hitbox like its a super urgent fix sub needs.
MKX has much more damage application than just combo vs combo. You can often rake up as much as a full combo would do and obviously any amount between, by neutral game pokes projectiles pressure and blocked combos, in the space of a single round alone. The fact that he lost some rounds by the difference that a proper combo would have had, should tell you this alone. The damage difference can matter immensely.
Yes. It can matter. But so can a million other aspects of the character/matchup. Brady lost because he made some questionable plays and dropped combos he shouldn't have dropped and got flustered. His dmg wasn't the issue, his level of practice at a high level and his mental strength were.
And that my friend, is the textbook definition of a Strawman fallacy. I didn't say any of that. I'm not saying the character needs more damage, or that TB lost because his character is harder to play. I think that if he had the control and level of execution that Sonic had, he would have done much better, because Sub high damage corner combos against females are HARD yo. But, the same thing could be said about Sonic, playing Cassie against Clone is HARD unless you can iAG like that, Sonic brought the execution that TB couldn't match, the better player won, TB got outplayed, no two ways about it.
Well, aside from your misuse of the term straw man argument I'll accept that. However my statement was in response to people saying subs dmg is why he lost, in an ideal scenario both sub and Cassie kill in the same number of combos was my point. Obviously the neutral game exists.
People are saying Sub going with his significantly lower damage "female" specific combos contributed to his loss as his BnBs become extremely high level execution against female characters, people were not saying that his hardest execution corner BnBs don't do enough damage. Also, while I do agree with the core of what you are saying, comparing combo damage in an ideal situation is COMPLETELY irrelevant in MULTIPLE ways, and doesn't actually support the argument that you are trying to make. Saying that Sub going with his lower damage combos makes "no difference" just because it still hits 100% in the same AMOUNT of perfect combo's is also absolutely incorrect. Nobody except Quan kills in less than 3 combos in ideal situations, and nobody in the game needs more than 3 ideal combos to kill, so this being your justification for saying that his lowered damage has no bearing on anything, is absolutely ridiculous and is just more of your Sub Zero tears. It's also exactly the same as saying Tempest would be just as strong if his 45% combos got scaled down to 33% combos just because it still kills in the same amount of hits. That's not how we measure the usefulness of damage the difference between 33% and 45% is massive, and in this situation I believe you were actually talking about the difference between 27% and 45% so even worse. It's just nonsense that you are spewing to be entirely honest with you.
