IrishMantis
Most humble shit talker ever!!!
For all the hype on the Kounter systemMany of us expected that. All the hype and it finally reduces to a message in the screen...epic fail.
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For all the hype on the Kounter systemMany of us expected that. All the hype and it finally reduces to a message in the screen...epic fail.
The game is naturally offensive so all tools in the game, even defensive ones, will have some offensive utility.Though I played Tremor with his great armor for the majority of my time with this game and people who play me will probably attest that I am an armoring fiend I think the changes(at least in my experience so far) are for the best. As much as such armored moves were defensive tools, they were also offensive ones. They offered so much reward and completely shifted momentum in many cases. And several armor attacks were so fucking good that they gave the character free offense, because the constant threat of an armor attack that does something like 30%+ with a great hitbox that may even offer great oki options was too intimidating.
Motherfucker, how would you even know anything about this game when all you play is Paragon?Yes, I had a problem w armored launchers.
The philosophy I follow is that invincible/armored reversals should ALL be punishable on block. This is still something NRS doesn't follow, but definitely a step in the right direction.
Couldn't agree more, man.The thing @Sultani is saying that I do agree with, is that the current system puts way too much power in the hands of the aggressor, at least from a risk/reward perspective.
Most characters have safe (or plus!) meterless combo starters in the corner. If I know I can go for a 40% combo and at worst I eat a 15% armored wakeup, there's no reason not to go for that 40% combo. Even trying to bait the wakeup doesn't seem worth it since a lot of them are safe.
Overall, I think most armored launchers needed to go, but it really should have been handled on a character-by-character basis. You can't expect to apply a 1-size-fits-all strategy to a game with almost 100 characters and expect it to be balanced.
Not all are created equal, unfortunately.Would back dashing on wakeup cover the invisible frames that you are asking for?
You have a point. It would have been nice if NRS would fixed this now that they want all the characters in a similar level.Not all are created equal, unfortunately.
Paragon has armored attacks... duh.Motherfucker, how would you even know anything about this game when all you play is Paragon?
Do you really not see the flaw here in your statements? 'there is no risk for pressuring' Since when is everyones pressure safe? Its not like you get to just endlessly push buttons, the majority of the cast is still -frames on their many of their strings, and strings that are not - start as highs or have too much push back to loop them over and over. and RC pressure was nerfed by the stamina changes so thats not as powerful either. Yes, you have to deal with more pressure, but it eventually ends and it is more in your favor to attempt to poke out and take your turn, specially cuz you dont have to worry about your poke being blown up for another 30%.I normally don't agree with m2dave... but he nailed it here.
Number one is my exact issue with this. There's no risk for just running at someone and pressuring. The aggressor gets to just ignore the possibility of getting blown up for over committing because there are no such things as invincible start up reversals that lead to any respectable damage anymore.
The 50/50 meta that everyone bitched about got buffed. If you get HKD once, there's no way you are getting up without spending a meter and risking getting blown up anyway.
What if playing the nuetral wasnt what i bought it for? What if dare i say i wanted armored launchers to supplement my inability to devote my life to understanding small things like frame traps. What if i wanted to force more experienced players to their knees with the threat of me stealing a turn for free with ex overhead god sword kotal. I dont think its a streatch to say that 60% of the people who bought it feel the same. I.E TYM stands for a very small percentage of the mk players.Do you really not see the flaw here in your statements? 'there is no risk for pressuring' Since when is everyones pressure safe? Its not like you get to just endlessly push buttons, the majority of the cast is still -frames on their many of their strings, and strings that are not - start as highs or have too much push back to loop them over and over. and RC pressure was nerfed by the stamina changes so thats not as powerful either. Yes, you have to deal with more pressure, but it eventually ends and it is more in your favor to attempt to poke out and take your turn, specially cuz you dont have to worry about your poke being blown up for another 30%.
Which also leads to the 2nd half, you have fucking armor to get out of the pressure as well, many characters having 2 hit armor. blown up anyway? the armor is also safe in most cases. and then you HKD and its your turn, like, its so obvious. you are mad that if you get HKD once it is done, when you have 2 hit armor to avoid that problem as well as armor to knock them down and start your own pressure and put them in the same position.
Fucking babies cant handle playing the nuetral properly
Then I say that your vision does not allign with paulo's and thats just too fuckin bad. This conversation has never been about 'what do the masses want.' Im sure plenty of the masses would love if they could ivan ooze their way to victory every game. Play something else if that is what you want. no game is designed by the public, it is designed by the devs and fits the vision they hold, not you. If you do not agree with that vision, particularly for the reasons that you outlined, then go play something else that is more attuned to your preferences.What if playing the nuetral wasnt what i bought it for? What if dare i say i wanted armored launchers to supplement my inability to devote my life to understanding small things like frame traps. What if i wanted to force more experienced players to their knees with the threat of me stealing a turn for free with ex overhead god sword kotal. I dont think its a streatch to say that 60% of the people who bought it feel the same. I.E TYM stands for a very small percentage of the mk players.
To be fair, nobody on the planet can seem to agree on what the vision of this game is or should be, and have spent months and months arguing as to why it should play such and such way, or be more attuned to thier personal preferences.Then I say that your vision does not allign with paulo's and thats just too fuckin bad. This conversation has never been about 'what do the masses want.' Im sure plenty of the masses would love if they could ivan ooze their way to victory every game. Play something else if that is what you want. no game is designed by the public, it is designed by the devs and fits the vision they hold, not you. If you do not agree with that vision, particularly for the reasons that you outlined, then go play something else that is more attuned to your preferences.
But paulos vison has changed multiple times i payed for mkx the game that released a year ago this is not that. Look im not mad it is what is. Was just trying to expand the debate is allThen I say that your vision does not allign with paulo's and thats just too fuckin bad. This conversation has never been about 'what do the masses want.' Im sure plenty of the masses would love if they could ivan ooze their way to victory every game. Play something else if that is what you want. no game is designed by the public, it is designed by the devs and fits the vision they hold, not you. If you do not agree with that vision, particularly for the reasons that you outlined, then go play something else that is more attuned to your preferences.
LUL are you a johnny or kenshi player?i wonder if this was the vanilla patch would it have sold 5 million copies?
ToS that you agree to when you purchase the item gives NRS the right to make changes, unannounced, at any time, without your consent. The game is still playable (like objectively playable, fuck off with semantics.) Welcome to the world of digital goods.But paulos vison has changed multiple times i payed for mkx the game that released a year ago this is not that. Look im not mad it is what is. Was just trying to expand the debate is all
I think paulo agrees on the vision, and thats also in part because he can change it as he sees fit at anytime. Kinda like Trumps net worth.To be fair, nobody on the planet can seem to agree on what the vision of this game is or should be, and have spent months and months arguing as to why it should play such and such way, or be more attuned to thier personal preferences.
By this logic, nobody should be playing mkx and tym should be a ghost town.
I thought it read more like"I didn't ask for a change and got one" than it did "I want such and such change". And your response sounded like it could have been aimed at everyone who isn't NRS, but wasn't. Ergo subtext of casuals dont get a vote.I think paulo agrees on the vision, and thats also in part because he can change it as he sees fit at anytime. Kinda like Trumps net worth.
Balance is a subjective topic, we all have different ideas of what is and is not balanced, and all of our ideas are subject to change. The point i was making is not that we all have to agree or see it paulos way, but that if you are going to argue for change then it needs to be based on your subjective opinion of balance with the attempt to sway paulo into agreeing. The argument that I was responding to was not taking that approach, and was taking more of a 'consumer entitlement' approach with does not hold any water due to the EULA.
Its not that casuals dont get a vote, they do, but i think there is a right and a wrong way to go about it. WB makes the final call, but they of course are willing to listen their customers. They dont have to, but they do. If you want them to listen then you have to approach it from a balance perspective, thats what WB is doing afterall. The arguments that I was responding to were not doing that, they were demanding change or lack there of, based on consumer entitlement that they do not have. The game does not stay the same just cuz thats what you bought, but it would stay the same if what you bought is what WB considers balanced.I thought it read more like"I didn't ask for a change and got one" than it did "I want such and such change". And your response sounded like it could have been aimed at everyone who isn't NRS, but wasn't. Ergo subtext of casuals dont get a vote.
That's putting words in your mouth, and this phone thing makes to hard to follow, so I'll just take the explanation.
His comments on how this isn't the game he paid for is interesting as a debate topic on how much change is ok after sale. More change is being asked for. Who wants that, who doesn't and who gets a say?