If you want more wall carry in sacrifice of damage, remove the 323. Ending with F23 xx Flip without 323 grants more wall carry and frame Adv off of Flip. Not that you can do anything afterwards though besides regular oki since you're too far from the enemy.
that looks really good. i might try using that more but i'm not sure how I feel about giving up 4-5% for the setup and they might just block it once they see u go for it.
In the corner you can go for enders like 12xxflip or d2xxflip and neutral jump 3 to safejump some of the slower wakeups( like WoWo lasso spin and amazon uppercut ) , trying it right now in training i can't neutral safejump MMH push wich is 14 frames but i can safejump it if i jump forward ( wich of course means we lose the corner ).
Do you block the rising grab or it just whiffs? Air grab has this hitbox that doesn't hit vs low profile moves and the latest frames of j3 lower his hitbox.
it whiffs but can't you punish it on whiff?
Yes you can , it is good vs Superman.
oh ok, yeah i'm trying it on sinestro and it's not working. i think the highest i can get is 26% for a safe jump.
yea in the corner you can't safejump him but midscreen you can
yea forward/back jumps are faster than neutral jump. in the corner i'm doing f3, d2, forward jump 3, 23 sword flip (26%) then i'm dashing forward and neutral jump 3 and it safe jumps on sinestro.
Are you making sure that the nj3 hits if Sinestro doesn't wakeup? What i do to test is recording the setup w DS and then waking up or block w Sinestro , i can never safejump him w neutral jump.
you're right, i just tried doing that and it never worked lol. ok thanks.
This is actually really useful. I've always internally complained that DS doesn't have a BGB go-to when late in a combo.
Yeah one of the things I like about the BGB combos kinda like that one is that if you hit the J3 really late it will cross up to the other side and you can go for another cross-up F3 to try and reset them. Online I usually won't do the j3 12 SF part, I usually just do j3 SF if the connection isn't that good and you only give up a few %
Just do D2 after a J3. Will always connect no matter what height. Even neutral J3s
I am talking about the end of that BGB combo though, and reversing positions at the end. So leaving off the last part to go for the cross up. I don't think it works on every character though. Probably not large body chars that have slower air trajectory.
Do martians teles avoid mbf3 after knockdown in the corner or do they get stuffed? I'm assuming the overhead one gets stuffed because of the start up but I don't know if the regular one has invinc or not.
Yeah background bounce stages are so sick for DS. 323 has so much carry it seems to always get you in range of them even if you seem far away. I love using the BGB after a F3, J3, F2 too in the footsie game that combo is so easy and leads to such great damage/spacing.