Tekken 7 General Discussion Thread - OP Updated With All Tekken Info

[Eddy Wang]

? What else got nerfed? And I doubt that'd happen unless he went Talim status and got so bad every game they eventually take him out. He wasn't always high tier in games but the lowest he usually went is a solid mid tier

They reverted all previous nerfs, aside from the F4 that was guaranteed and the uf2 nerf, its all good, they even buffed him far more too.
B4 does more damage, 314 does more damage 1d34 does more damage, bf23~zen cancel is -7 12~f goes into zen and goes under highs all juggle combos are still possible, b21 juggle from CH s4 is still alive
ws3 screws on CH, new zen 3 new homing mid that screws on ch frame traps if blocked, old zen 3 is now zen 3+4. still works on screws.

He is pretty good on the A tier currently but he has everything to be just as good as the S tiers, so i think he is A+ at the very least, the uf2 nerf killed part of his comeback factor.



Also a memory i stumble upon to today with @A F0xy Grampa and @smokey it was published elsewhere in facebook

F0xy: "Fucking Lilis everywhere, I hate you all."
Wang: "I've heard Lili is a Bitch in UK"
F0xy: "She's a bitch everywhere. Quite fitting that my main also hates her too. She's a character I hate fighting and love destroying."
Wang& Smith: "LOOOL"

Smokey: "Not being racist or anything though but if you arent korean youre already doing it wrong"

Wang: "LOOOOL"



HAHAH

 

[buyacushun]

All of the above...

Plus, he was the coolest.

I played Scramble Battle and he was a beast.

Scramble battle was dope.

What made raven top tier? All I remember was the his air horizontal projectile.

 

[GAV]

Scramble battle was dope.

What made raven top tier? All I remember was the his air horizontal projectile.

In Scramble Battle, it was his ability to get on the other side so that his opponents were caught in the middle.

So cheap, yet so hilarious.

Plus, you can keep your teammate relatively safe with him. They should never be able to finish long combos on your teammate if you have Raven.

 

[vegeta]

They reverted all previous nerfs, aside from the F4 that was guaranteed and the uf2 nerf, its all good, they even buffed him far more too.
B4 does more damage, 314 does more damage 1d34 does more damage, bf23~zen cancel is -7 12~f goes into zen and goes under highs all juggle combos are still possible, b21 juggle from CH s4 is still alive
ws3 screws on CH, new zen 3 new homing mid that screws on ch frame traps if blocked, old zen 3 is now zen 3+4. still works on screws.

He is pretty good on the A tier currently but he has everything to be just as good as the S tiers, so i think he is A+ at the very least, the uf2 nerf killed part of his comeback factor.



Also a memory i stumble upon to today with @A F0xy Grampa and @smokey it was published elsewhere in facebook

F0xy: "Fucking Lilis everywhere, I hate you all."
Wang: "I've heard Lili is a Bitch in UK"
F0xy: "She's a bitch everywhere. Quite fitting that my main also hates her too. She's a character I hate fighting and love destroying."
Wang& Smith: "LOOOL"

Smokey: "Not being racist or anything though but if you arent korean youre already doing it wrong"

Wang: "LOOOOL"



HAHAH

K. I was aware of that stuff then. As for Lili, dudes are gonna hate me as she's my secondary. Better than Asuka which I assume is his main. Dime a Dozen brainless cancaning f+2ing, countering ass players. Lili >Asuka. I just block her to death with either of my characters. Not worried about any Asuka's. Lili is risky in just about anything she does. If it gets blocked, it gets punished for the most part. She's way linear and gets interrupted half the time.

 

[exflyingbooty]

I really have no idea why people are complaining about lili of all people, while she is good in this game she doesn't have any tools outside of matterhorn that are borderline stupid like the rest of the cast

 

[DYNA$TY]

They probably just don't know how to really fight her. I can play her and fight her as well, I really don't see the big deal. Launch matterhorn, swr d/f+3+4 and blow her back out for whiffing it, basically just block and punish. Her ch tools aren't that great, ch d/f+4 or ch f+1+2 don't hurt as much as a magic 4 and are 3 to 4 frames slower. Her movement is a double edged sword, sure she can step around a lot but she has bad tracking and a very close range homing move. Don't get too reckless as she has good punishment for standing and ws.

 

[exflyingbooty]

They probably just don't know how to really fight her. I can play her and fight her as well, I really don't see the big deal. Launch matterhorn, swr d/f+3+4 and blow her back out for whiffing it, basically just block and punish. Her ch tools aren't that great, ch d/f+4 or ch f+1+2 don't hurt as much as a magic 4 and are 3 to 4 frames slower. Her movement is a double edged sword, sure she can step around a lot but she has bad tracking and a very close range homing move. Don't get too reckless as she has good punishment for standing and ws.

you forgot to mention she has really amazing oki but other then that yeah that's basically her in a nutshell with good spacing tools

 

[JJvercetti]

I usually have to play a counter hit game against her she just steps everything I can do.

 

[JJvercetti]

Yes everyone, this is real.

 

[SaltShaker]

Yes everyone, this is real.

Here's for hoping there's a Day1 patch to end nonsense like this. If that makes it to release I dunno how I'd feel.

 

[buyacushun]

Yes everyone, this is real.

Jump ins, demon flip, and level 3 focus as combo starters? Unviable will never happen in a tournament. Learn to sidestep scrub.

 

[JJvercetti]

Akuma is going to get wrecked by the time the console version arrives ( I hope)

 

[villainous monk]

Yes everyone, this is real.

Is this tekken?

I have a feeling once the game cars out he'll be patched in some retrospect but still extremely good. Him and Hitachi but maybe patched even further after Master Cup or Evo.

Either way I'm not too worried about this yet. It's just very hard finding enough matches online that has players dealing with Gouki when shinnanigans like this do happen.

I really hope I don't eat my words next year.

 

[JJvercetti]

Is this tekken?

I have a feeling once the game cars out he'll be patched in some retrospect but still extremely good. Him and Hitachi but maybe patched even further after Master Cup or Evo.

Either way I'm not too worried about this yet. It's just very hard finding enough matches online that has players dealing with Gouki when shinnanigans like this do happen.

I really hope I don't eat my words next year.

I know. Even though this is a tool assisted vid, it just shows how stupid he is in the current game.

 

[Sutter Pain]

Can't wait for this to come out, I pray it will run good on PC and the netcode is on par or better than ttt2.

 

[villainous monk]

Is it just me but do some of the launchers now look like they've scaled the gravity a bit lower. I've been watching a ton of vids and Knees stream the most and I've noticed when the opponent starts to fall it looks faster as in you can do more continuations a bit quicker.

I not sure but I just wanted to put it out there if anyone has noticed the same thing.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Quit reasoning guys, Lord Akumer is broke.

On another note, here is the japan top 10 most used characters on FR right now.

1. Lord Akumer
2. Bryan Singer
3. King
4. Nina Hartley
5. Paul McCartney
6. Dragunov
7. Steve McQueen
8. Kazuhira Miller
9. Bonganini (Heihachi)
10. Claudio

 

[Eddy Wang]

Korean top 10 most used characters

1. Lord Akumer
2. Paul
3. Kazuya "kazuhira miller" Mishima
4. Bryan
5. Hwoarang
6. Nina
7. King
8. Devil Jin
9. Claudio
10. Jin

Strange things, no Heihachi in Korea top 10, no Steve either, considering the top 4 characters being streamed mostly on Korea are, Bryan, Steve, Heihachi and Nina.

Jin is just popular.

 

[16 Bit]

Katarina was bottom of both lists. Poor girl.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Katarina was bottom of both lists. Poor girl.

yeah, but she is pretty fun tho, her quotes are hella funny.

Morra! (die)
Você luta bem mas não tem alma! (You fight well, but your soul is lacking)
Corra de volta pra sua mamãe (Run back to your mom)

lol we portuguese language members have been laughing pretty hard on those.

 

[16 Bit]

I love "morra!". I mimic it all the time.

 

[JJvercetti]

Paul is hella popular in the arcades, I hope there will be more representation in the tourny scene.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Expect the patch notes for the next 24 hours for the new T7FR build, which will hit the arcades in august 9th with Bob.

Also Akumer has finally been nerfed, but can't wait to see what has changed in general.


My ears also spiked when Harada mentioned Kunimitsu.

 

[vegeta]

They probably just don't know how to really fight her. I can play her and fight her as well, I really don't see the big deal. Launch matterhorn, swr d/f+3+4 and blow her back out for whiffing it, basically just block and punish. Her ch tools aren't that great, ch d/f+4 or ch f+1+2 don't hurt as much as a magic 4 and are 3 to 4 frames slower. Her movement is a double edged sword, sure she can step around a lot but she has bad tracking and a very close range homing move. Don't get too reckless as she has good punishment for standing and ws.

Exactly. She's my secondary and I basically compensate for her weaknesses with gimmicks and mind games. If those don't work she has a real hard time.

 

[vegeta]

you forgot to mention she has really amazing oki but other then that yeah that's basically her in a nutshell with good spacing tools

That becomes pseudo irrelevant in 7. She can't re-launch you with how the wake up system now works