Tekken 7 General Discussion Thread - OP Updated With All Tekken Info

[Tanno]

It might be a noob question, but how do you make the AI to repeat attack in Practice mode?

 

[EntropicByDesign]

It might be a noob question, but how do you make the AI to repeat attack in Practice mode?

Go to the action 1 thing, where you set them to guard or not guard, etc and go the bottom of the list and you'll see something like copy or repeat or something to that effect. I can't remember the name off the top.of my head and I was just using it this morning. It's not mimic though, thats not the right one but it's down there towards the bottomabnd it only shows in action 1 so if you try to use the second one its not an option.in the list.

Then the menu will change and youll have additional action slots. Choosr which to record and hit accept or whatever. Once it goes back to the game itself, there will be a command at the bottom of the screen to start recording.

 

[LiangHuBBB]

My first impressions of Noctis in Tekken 7:

has low high mixups with his own version of Paul's Demo Man

df+2 launcher is really fast, prob one of the fastest in the game and has an amazing range to whiff punish stuff

warp strike can act as a projectile & also catching the opponent pressing buttons from far range

1,2,3 or 4 does lead into a teleport for rising 2,2 which puts the opponent into a juggle state for corner carry

the second hit of his spinning sword can get canceled for mixups

db+1+2 is chargeable, has huge range and launches, it's -16 on block, but has a better pushback than deathfist so many characters will not be able to punish it

uf+2 & df+1+2 can hit grounded opponents

db+2 is solid to keep the opponent away, when the opponent expect you doing it again
you can go for uf+2 launcher, it has an even better range than df+2

he has the best range in Tekken 7, but ain't that good at close range

f,f+1+2 is amazing & homing, his spinning sword is also homing, both juggle on CH

his parry is amazing

for high crushes you can use db+3

Noctis dominates the long range, you just need to find a way to keep out the opponent.
Close range pressure characters like Nina can give him trouble.

you can roll and when ppl expect the slide you can go for uf+3 launcher

not sure how good his roll mixups are

These are just some Noctis combos & stuff I've compiled today.
All these things need more testing since it's just day 1 for everyone.
Thanks for watching and good games @ll.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

My first impressions of Noctis in Tekken 7:

has low high mixups with his own version of Paul's Demo Man

df+2 launcher is really fast, prob one of the fastest in the game and has an amazing range to whiff punish stuff

warp strike can act as a projectile & also catching the opponent pressing buttons from far range

1,2,3 or 4 does lead into a teleport for rising 2,2 which puts the opponent into a juggle state for corner carry

the second hit of his spinning sword can get canceled for mixups

db+1+2 is chargeable, has huge range and launches, it's -16 on block, but has a better pushback than deathfist so many characters will not be able to punish it

uf+2 & df+1+2 can hit grounded opponents

db+2 is solid to keep the opponent away

he has the best range in Tekken 7, but ain't that good at close range

f,f+1+2 is amazing & homing, his spinning sword is also homing

his parry is amazing

for high crushes you can use db+3

Noctis dominates the long range, you just need to find a way to keep out the opponent.
Close range pressure characters like Nina can give him trouble.

you can roll and when ppl expect the slide you can go for uf+3 launcher

not sure how good his roll mixups are

These are just some Noctis combos & stuff I've compiled today. All these things needs more testing since it's just day 1 for everyone. Thanks for watching and good games @ll.

Have you messed with his wr1+2? The huge sword smash launcher? I did some limited testing and it appears + OB.. a massive range, mid, + launcher is kinda insane. It's slow and looks linear.. but the pure fear of the thing seems as good as actually using it.

Additionally he has a similar looking move in jump forward 1+2 (not uf.. you have to initiate the jump) that's + from what I could tell via limited testing and has huge range. This one I can see not being terribly great, but at the same time, it's huge range, damage and + frames could be nice.

 

[Tanno]

Go to the action 1 thing, where you set them to guard or not guard, etc and go the bottom of the list and you'll see something like copy or repeat or something to that effect. I can't remember the name off the top.of my head and I was just using it this morning. It's not mimic though, thats not the right one but it's down there towards the bottomabnd it only shows in action 1 so if you try to use the second one its not an option.in the list.

Then the menu will change and youll have additional action slots. Choosr which to record and hit accept or whatever. Once it goes back to the game itself, there will be a command at the bottom of the screen to start recording.

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Found it. It's there:

1) Action Settings.
2) CPU Opponent Action 1.
3) Set to "Repeat Action".
4) Set the "Repeat Actions 1-5" to whatever you like.
5) In game, press Touchpad+3 to play.

I'll leave this to those who want to know how.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

I'm shit.. but I have a functional enough understanding of the game to have some idea what's good/decent and what's likely bad/weak.. and based on what I'm seeing Noctis looks like he has potential to be really solid.. despite how flashy he looks and such a lot of his stuff is grounded in Tekken fundamentals..powerful tools that have particular weaknesses, and backup tools to cover those weaknesses and allow ansmart player to condition and make good reads. His mid game looks great and demoman alone makes for a good low game lol, safe low crushing launcher, fast df2 launch, what appears to be a huge damage (74~) +ob massive range mid, wr normal hit launcher, with stromg tracking moves like ff1+2 -a homing CH mid launcher that's not enormously.punishable - to cover SS attempts end enforce his threatening range game.

I mean, who knows how the chips will fall, but ON PAPER he looks to have most of the important angles covered.. but it will come down to how effectively he can keep people out.

I am fucking ecstatic.

 

[Tanno]

My early impressions:

Noctis is an all-rounder. He has good footsies game, much like Katarina and Yoshimitsu in a sense. His warping powers are easy. I plan to try him against D.Jin.

He has some swag OKI stuff. His sword OKIs punish the downed opponents, while Noctis is in safe distance.

He's a close counter-attacker much like Hit. If you time it right, he'll do the same as Hit punching his opponent away. His weakness as a counter is that he CANNOT counter low attacks.

 

[Tanno]

As Noctis, I found a punishing attack against D. Jin's Fly. It's DF2. All the other attacks whiff. This way you prevent him from flying and kill you.

 

[Flamelurkr]

No ones talking about that df+1.

 

[Tanno]

https://twitter.com/TannoFGC/status/976483088099356673

Fuck you, D.Jin!

 

[EntropicByDesign]

No ones talking about that df+1.

Agreed. I read its like -1, good range and Im guessing its the standard startup. I dont think it's range is *quite* as good as it looks at first glance, but its really good. Maybe a little behind Katarina's which has crazy range, but it's absolutely got some reach. It's just hard to focus a tool that's so simple (but extremely powerful/important) when he's flipping all over the place, blowing shit up and teleporting around, lol.

-1 with that kind of range is superrrr nice.

 

[Flamelurkr]

Agreed. I read its like -1, good range and Im guessing its the standard startup. I dont think it's range is *quite* as good as it looks at first glance, but its really good. Maybe a little behind Katarina's which has crazy range, but it's absolutely got some reach. It's just hard to focus a tool that's so simple (but extremely powerful/important) when he's flipping all over the place, blowing shit up and teleporting around, lol.

-1 with that kind of range is superrrr nice.

i13 also lol 13 mid that's -1 but ppl say he hurts up close, at least his s1 is +1 and its his fastest move

 

[LiangHuBBB]

Have you messed with his wr1+2? The huge sword smash launcher? I did some limited testing and it appears + OB.. a massive range, mid, + launcher is kinda insane. It's slow and looks linear.. but the pure fear of the thing seems as good as actually using it.

it's +8 on block if Im not mistaken.
after warp strike on hit like Ive stated above it's a good mixup tool doing either his sword smash or demolition man. on block you can keep doing pressure with 1+2 cancel etc.
needs more testing though because Ive mainly played noctis mirrors so far and Im not sure how fast other characters can interrupt stuff like this

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Yeah, he seems to shine at range, but he can bang up close too, at least in so far as re-establishing his range goes. Plus the 123 and 124 strings that can let him SS and get some breathing room, off an i10 move no less.

My internet is down, fucking local outage.. so I'm grinding training mode for his other costumes. No luck so far.=(. I want the one with a hood. His hair looks dumb.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Honestly he looks very viable.
To me, it looks like a character that is easy to play, and very easy to enforce some of his tools, he also forces a lot of sidewalk due the damn range he has, and that db+1+2 is going to annoy the shit out of many people, it tracks both sides and needs to be sidewalked, can be charged to be +2, you can't step on reaction and if done on the right range doesn't seems like no one in the game actually has a tool which can punish that launcher.

Demoman, a fucking parry, fullscreen whiff punish, he looks insane lol.

 

[Flamelurkr]

Agreed. I'm not the best tekken player but this has been a rough day against some of these day 1 noctis players

 

[EntropicByDesign]

He's def not one of those characters you say "Hes probably gonna be a late bloomer..".. He has everything he could possibly need and more besides.

AGAIN THIS IS JUST AN OBSERVATION AND NOT A LITERAL COMMENT ON HIS TIER PLACEMENT

But ON PAPER, he's more than just viable. Of course its early, and we dont know what will happen when people adapt.. and Tekken more than any other fighter is a game were 'on paper' means little. Still though, he has some really really good shit, and one or two things that are probably better than good.

 

[Tanno]

Had fun playing Tekken 7 live breakdown on Noctis along with my buddy. Had a mirror match and had some stuff considered. Gotta work with him in case Eddy gets beaten up. I'm very good with Eddy. Played with my buddy's Steve and Bryan. As Eddy, you need to be patient and wait for his gaps, and then punish him with B24. Bryan is a different story, and you need to prevent him from getting close to you.

We cried from the laughs, because one match was 2-2. My buddy had like 120% HP, and I had like 20% with Rage on. I did a comeback from one tech OKI in neutral to another tech OKI in corner. After I did that, I questioned him, "Did you like my comeback?". "Yes.", he answered as he was in shock. The next match was what we cried from the laughs with the thought of this comeback. LOL!

And I was lucky that ours other buddy brought over MvCi. Had fun exploring and labbing the combos. Thinking of buying this to help me with my muscle memory and combo stuff. MvCi is like DBFZ, but a bit different. Tried it with pad, and I can admit that it fits me than my fightstick, because of its fewer buttons.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

@Flamelurkr You asked for the progress

@TAKUMA Your request has been answered! Behold and WHOOP THERE IT IS

 

[Flamelurkr]

@Flamelurkr You asked for the progress

@TAKUMA Your request has been answered! Behold and WHOOP THERE IT IS

Yo those parries were godlike! You parried a gap? How fast is it?

Also we need that voice in commentary! You had me dying after he taunted you lol

 

[Eddy Wang]

Yo those parries were godlike! You parried a gap? How fast is it?

Also we need that voice in commentary! You had me dying after he taunted you lol

His parry its just as fast as Jin's parry.

 

[Tanno]

His parry its just as fast as Jin's parry.

Or as fast as Hit's parry. Needs strict timing to make it doable.

 

[Osagri]

Or as fast as Hit's parry. Needs strict timing to make it doable.

Mmm... Different game soooooo

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Gonna be putting some time in on Noctis this morning. If anyone's awake and wants to play let me know. I'll buy him on PS4 if need be.

PC and PS4 - NA - East Coast.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

Yo those parries were godlike! You parried a gap? How fast is it?

Also we need that voice in commentary! You had me dying after he taunted you lol

LOL Honestly, i was kept thinking of DBFZ and saying to myself "Reflect Reflect REFLECT!" then BAM the shit actually worked! The startup is really fast BUT it has a very small window for the parry to take place, so you gotta pick your spot quick or else it will leave you open for punish. Also take into account, it only parries highs and mids I believe, not lows.

I still can't believe that muthafucka decided to taunt on me haha. Maybe he knew he was gonna disconnect if he lost. Whateva....but thanks for the love man. I would LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to be on commentary for the FGC! Been actually doing research on that shit. If the opportunity persist, I'm so down!