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JBeezYBabY

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
Flamelurkr said:
Isnt sonic picking up tekken with noctus?
I'm a hwoarang fan boy since tag
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Wait...WHAT!? FO REALZ!? RECEIPTS!

I downloaded the patch last night, but hes still wasn't available to download on PS4. Once I get home from work, im sure he will be ready for me :)

Be prepared for ALOOOOOOOOT of Noctis mirror matches cuz he looks super fun to play!
 
Sutter Pain

Sutter Pain

Your mothers main.
Damn I wanna get back into this game but it is to weird to play on keyboard without a lot of re learning kbd, wd and ewgf.
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
I have Noctis on PC. thought I had to wait, but Im stupid and dont count gud.

Unlocked and took him into training mode for like.. 15m (im too tired to do anything.. need sleep) and at first glance, man he's gonna fun as HELL. I really look forward to learning him a little and maybe he'll be the character that lets me settle in to Tekken. Dude has a fucking demoman on top of all his other batshittery. Crazy range, some slick build in evasion. He's flashy. He moves well and feels fluid, though his dash timing feels weird. I'll be SUPER happy to see his frame data released or mined so I can get some idea of what he's got.

He has a solid i10 punish it looks like.. 27 damage, but I dunno OH frames, though in my 1min of testing it seemed reasonable. He also has.. I think its 2B2 or something like that, I forget the exact input atm, but it LOOKS like his 2 jab is i10, it seemed to be a NC (dummy set to stand, 2nd action block) and did like 31 or 32 damage.. if that's decently +OH it could give his i10 standing punish some real teeth. As a shit player, I put a lot of stock in my i10 punish since I dont know optimal frame punishes for everything, getting a lot of mileage out of i10s is important for me.. Its also the most used punish you have unless you're playing lunatics who routinely throw out launch punishable shit.. and if you are, I envy you, cause everyone I find to play, play like theyre in Losers GFs at fucking EVO and dont touch a button unless the situation allows for absolutely no retaliation on my part, lol.

Gonna lab him and find his BnBs when I get up and try to get some matches in this afternoon. Noctis will decide if I play SFV or Tekken alongside DBFz.
 
LiangHuBBB

LiangHuBBB

Warrior
Noctis in Tekken 7 is hella amazing! <3
so many awesome moves and dat range
but hey I guess let's wait for the frame data at first lol
 
Tanno

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Noctis is fun. Might be my 2nd main against my fear as Eddy, D.Jin. Good control distance with his attacks. His Armiger powers might be proven useful against D.Jin.

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JBeezYBabY

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
Flamelurkr said:
Anyone have a good idea who he plays like? Or is he his own character
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Been looking at some footage of ppl analyzing him. He seems like a very easy character to learn to appeal to more n00bs. He's definitely his own character with simple button press combos to do crazy shit. Thats what ive gathered so far.
 
Flamelurkr

Flamelurkr

Kombatant
JBeezYBabY said:
Been looking at some footage of ppl analyzing him. He seems like a very easy character to learn to appeal to more n00bs. He's definitely his own character with simple button press combos to do crazy shit. Thats what ive gathered so far.
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It makes since that he's simple since he's an rpg hero. I wanna see data before I buy though
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Flamelurkr said:
Anyone have a good idea who he plays like? Or is he his own character
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Yeah hes definitely his own character. His moveset and such SEEM to lend him to mid-range space control and a kind of evasion based style. Not in the way Eddy uses evasion but he has some tricks it looks like.
 
Flamelurkr

Flamelurkr

Kombatant
EntropicByDesign said:
That's kinda weird.. he has some moves I've seen him use moves that looked plus as hell. Like CH after CH when people pushed a button.

Dunno.
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His frame data is confusing me. S2 is -6 on hit? He has a safe launcher. Only one plus button. Idk because I haven't played him, is his s2 retarded or something? -6 on hit
 
Tanno

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Flamelurkr said:
His frame data is confusing me. S2 is -6 on hit? He has a safe launcher. Only one plus button. Idk because I haven't played him, is his s2 (soap bar in my mouth) or something? -6 on hit
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Don't be surprised, if you find out when you play him. I played him a bit before. He has a S2 autocombo. Already found a basic combo.

D/B1+2> 1+2, 1+2> S2222.

This S2 has gaps.
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Flamelurkr said:
His frame data is confusing me. S2 is -6 on hit? He has a safe launcher. Only one plus button. Idk because I haven't played him, is his s2 (soap bar in my mouth) or something? -6 on hit
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His s2 leads to a long string of more 2's. Only the first two hits are NC - didn't test on CH. And you can also do like 22b2 I think. So s2 may be -6 but I think the idea is to never really use it by itself. Wouldn't doubt if you're meant to throw out 22 and try to confirm a ch, maybe into more of the string, or confirm it's been blocked and maybe do the 22b2 string to end safely or catch punish attempts? Haven't tested yet.
 
Flamelurkr

Flamelurkr

Kombatant
EntropicByDesign said:
His s2 leads to a long string of more 2's. Only the first two hits are NC - didn't test on CH. And you can also do like 22b2 I think. So s2 may be -6 but I think the idea is to never really use it by itself. Wouldn't doubt if you're meant to throw out 22 and try to confirm a ch, maybe into more of the string, or confirm it's been blocked and maybe do the 22b2 string to end safely or catch punish attempts? Haven't tested yet.
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The move on hit is -6, I'm starting to think its because they only want you to be able to follow up with another 2, kind of how you put it
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Flamelurkr said:
The move on hit is -6, I'm starting to think its because they only want you to be able to follow up with another 2, kind of how you put it
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Yeah it follows Tekken's general logic in theory, if that's how it's meant to be used. How fast does s2 start up? I can't look at the frame data on my phone atm.

In about an hour I'm hoping to get on and into the lab and start looking through some of this stuff more closely. All I did this morning was hit random buttons and go through the movelist.

I want to see what his punishment is like as well. He's geared towards newbs, so I'm wondering if he won't have above average i10, and the rest mediocre or par.
 
Flamelurkr

Flamelurkr

Kombatant
EntropicByDesign said:
Yeah it follows Tekken's general logic in theory, if that's how it's meant to be used. How fast does s2 start up? I can't look at the frame data on my phone atm.

In about an hour I'm hoping to get on and into the lab and start looking through some of this stuff more closely. All I did this morning was hit random buttons and go through the movelist.

I want to see what his punishment is like as well. He's geared towards newbs, so I'm wondering if he won't have above average i10, and the rest mediocre or par.
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S2 is 15. S1 is 10 and leads to knd so not bad at all. F+2 startup is -21 lol must be a typo
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Well if anyone on PC (no Noctis on PS4 for me yet - for now just buying him once) wants to get on and test some things in about an hour..

PC - Na - east coast.
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
I have to say, I dunno if I'll mesh with Noctis or not, but he is EXACTLY what I wanted him to be, and mostly, exactly what I want in a character, with a couple small exceptions. If I cant really find my footing and the fun to be had in Tekken with this guy, I cant find it with anyone.
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Some Noctis combo stuff from Mihawk and TheFrameWhisperer:


Small move breakdown/discussion/discovery from TheFrameWhisperer:



Hopefully some of that prelim frame data is wrong.. I know its wrong, but according to that list his Demoman is +19 OB, LOL. Obv not.. just funny.

B1+4 being -11 doesnt make sense for instance.. It *LOOKS* like Drag or Bryan or Kat's +ob slow mids.. It has some range but it also has a huge audio cue and is very telegraphed.. and is punishable. -11 seems right, I can block it and get my 122 punish.. weird move. Of course I know in tekken not everything is useful and everyone has head scratching garbo moves.. but this one just looks/acts like a pretty standard Tekken move, but the frame data confuses me. Well.. It floor breaks off a wall bounce. but... megh.

ub2 is dopeeeeee though. Forces crouch looks like, Seems to be safe. i cant get a punish.

Umm. Ok I NEED THIS TESTED. wr1+2 is a massive range mid launcher that APPEARS to be +OB. I recorded the dummy doing it, then throwing out a 4 (just a random move with some range) and when I block and try to retaliate, I get CH. This is potentially really strong. Its linear, and its a little slow, but damn....... EDIT - Can jab trade with the st.4. Data may change too dependant on how deep you land this.. but I think this is a potential monster of a move for him. Its one of those moves that may be more effective for its threat than its use, but still.. From a little ways out you have stuff like ff1+2 that tracks and CH launches.. all to try and catch the SS to avoid the big boy. Interestingggggggggg

Jump Forward 1+2 also seems + ob. Big range. No idea how useful it'll be because its not done with UF1+2 but rather jump forward then hit 1+2 when you're in the air.
 
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