JaredL
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You can't punish a random F23.
And obviously he can't jump around, but its an option.
You can't punish a random F23.
And we aren't having much success either (people that play bane vs the guy who doesn't but seems to know more than all of us lol)
Um, have you seen bane's backdash. He can dodge and whiff punish.
my badPoweredbyProtein You're opening pandora's box. I JUST got him to go the Bane forum, let's keep the matchup discussion there sir
Horribly ironic fromt he guy who seems like he doesn't play this game. Yeah Bane's advantage on block is great, I know this because I play the character, but his startup frames are a tremendous issue, yeah if he gets in D+1 range he can do work but being in D+1 range and just outside of it puts him in range for F2,3 and plenty of other options to beat him out in that range due to startup on anything he has. You also gotta take into account pushblock, yeah Bane can pushblock Supes off of him but doing that puts him out of range for F2,3 and Supes always has that option also. Supes controls the ground game far to strongly against Bane and Trait just makes this worse.
True, but Bane still has to be careful if Supes reads a backdash he can airdash and punish or establish pressure on Bane. If Bane's anti-aor grab worked properly it wouldn't be so annoying. I may sound fatalistic but I think the matchup is 7-3 at worse, closer to a 6.5 in Supes favor. Unless he has full meter or wants to block meter on constant pushblocks he has a hard time with Bane's pressure when he's in.
Not if he does F23 breath. And again, superman simply needs to be cautious. He does not need to do F23, F23, F23. He simply needs to wait for Bane to get close, do a blockstring, and then dash back to be safe. Yes, if superman was being stupid and constantly doing F23 where he can get wiff punished by a good read, then he deserves it, but a smart superman is more about punishing bane, and not rushing him down.
If you are getting bodied by Superman and don't understand the matchup, that's fine. Obviously a Bane player doing D1 OUTSIDE of hitbox range deserves to get blown up, so what are you talking about? Show me in the post, ANY post, where I said to just mindless stick my foot out so I can get ass raped? F23 is the best string in the game, period. It's fast, it's safe, it's great. It's not unbeatable and there are ways around it. I posted several ways to blow it up. And why do you assume I don't know how to play the game lol? That's just ignorant. I think you need to spend more time in the Bane forum as well cause saying you can't EVER jump in on Superman and can't EVER dash in safely.........no comment
You can't jump in safely, unless supes is in the corner, and your dash can be safe if you dash block. If you dash and try to pressure, you're getting blown up.
I never said that, I peruse the Bane forums constantly along with pretty much all the other character forums so I can know as much as possible. And I never implied that you had said that you can just mindlessly spam D1, I'm saying lets face it taking in human error you're going to miss every now and then and every now and then you're going to get blown up.
Well yeah, of course. The thing is w/Bane, as you know since you say you main him, if you miss against Bane or get hit, you might be eating 50%. Superman can hit like a truck too, he's the best char in the game IMO. My only point to JaredL was that this is not a 8-2 matchup in Supes favor, it's 6-4. Go back and look at the pages, that's all I'm saying
You also say that you can block lasers at some mysterious range and do a full punish, which assumes you're facing retard supermen, who are likely you in the past, who do lasers at point blank range.Well yeah, of course. The thing is w/Bane, as you know since you say you main him, if you miss against Bane or get hit, you might be eating 50%. Superman can hit like a truck too, he's the best char in the game IMO. My only point to JaredL was that this is not a 8-2 matchup in Supes favor, it's 6-4. Go back and look at the pages, that's all I'm saying
-Show me where I said you can block air laser and get a full punish. If I'm at midrange, I can punish. It's a fact, not opinion. If I'm at full screen, I can safely dash. What is so hard about this dude?
i got the reference
Yeah that's just not true. Deathstroke in particular comes to mind, even after the nerf. You absolutely cannot do any form of Heat Vision or use Flying Punch. He can gun any of them on reaction. If he's not scared of YOUR zoning, then you're playing his game. Then you get in and what? F23~Breath loops? Lol No. Let me tell you, that shit doesn't work on high level players. One pushblock and you have to do everything over again. Deathstroke also stops you from using interactibles if they're not meterburnable and gets to farm and protect his own.
