Superman General Discussion Thread

[Parasurama]

Ye, that is in the video at one point.

Its funny how it hits her when its a high, yet f2, a mid, whiffs

When I was labbing against Cheetah for a tournament before the patch of bf3 - I found that it couldnt be low profiled and was a perfect mid. Too bad it was nerfed. It is nice to hear that it still has anti low profile qualities.

 

[gibster13]

Me vs a shittalking flash..hope it helps

 

[Cursa]

Me vs a shittalking flash..hope it helps

Man flash just has to get in once and you might lose the whole game.

 

[gibster13]

Man flash just has to get in once and you might lose the whole game.

Ikr, I hate it. But the dude didn't adapt to me adapting to him. It is what supes has to do, just play neutral lol.

 

[Cursa]

Ikr, I hate it. But the dude didn't adapt to me adapting to him. It is what supes has to do, just play neutral lol.

I always get so salty over those sorts of things for some reason, like getting opened by a Batman because he does his J2 for the 37th time after I anti-aired him the last 36 times. And then I get put in the blender.

But anyways, for just flash in general, he has a pretty chunky amount of bad matchups, but there's VERY few characters, if any, who stop him from doing what he does once he gets in your face. As soon as he's standing like right next to you, you're playing his game pretty much.

 

[Hawkeye1345]

I always get so salty over those sorts of things for some reason, like getting opened by a Batman because he does his J2 for the 37th time after I anti-aired him the last 36 times. And then I get put in the blender.

But anyways, for just flash in general, he has a pretty chunky amount of bad matchups, but there's VERY few characters, if any, who stop him from doing what he does once he gets in your face. As soon as he's standing like right next to you, you're playing his game pretty much.

That's why I say matchups don't really matter for Canary and Flash, because if you get in with them, they beat everybody

 

[Cursa]

That's why I say matchups don't really matter for Canary and Flash, because if you get in with them, they beat everybody

I think another big one is that projectile parry allows him to wait out the fullscreen game pretty well if he has the life lead.

Where a life lead for flash is you guessed wrong or he landed a good jump in into trait combo

 

[gibster13]

I think that f3 mixups are a huge part of supes' game in the corner.

A deep j2 into f3 jails, literally nothing they can do. From here:

I go into f23 pressure, e.g. throw baits and shit.
Throw bait
throw


It's unreal imo

Never see anyone else do it, so wondering why ppl don't..


Obs somtimes I max on dmg

 

[Parasurama]

I think that f3 mixups are a huge part of supes' game in the corner.

A deep j2 into f3 jails, literally nothing they can do. From here:

I go into f23 pressure, e.g. throw baits and shit.
Throw bait
throw


It's unreal imo

Never see anyone else do it, so wondering why ppl don't..


Obs somtimes I max on dmg

Throws are good but can be teched

 

[gibster13]

Throws are good but can be teched

Thats why I abuse throw baits...They get baited they're taking a ton of dmg

 

[SpecOps2013]

Me vs a shittalking flash..hope it helps

Nice Superman gameplay. Took away some tips on how to play him.

 

[Parasurama]

Thats why I abuse throw baits...They get baited they're taking a ton of dmg

What do you do? Some people tech on reaction though....

 

[gibster13]

What do you do? Some people tech on reaction though....

Normally I’m so in their head that they are too scared too tech because of the fear of the bait

 

[Parasurama]

Normally I’m so in their head that they are too scared too tech because of the fear of the bait

What do you do...f23?

 

[Tweedy]

The best baits are 111, neutral jump or mb f3/b3. You can also bait with a raw f3 or f23 if timed very well.

 

[gibster13]

My fav baits are (shimmy is where I shimmy(obs lol) and they try to tech the throw)

f23 4 throw bait:
F23 4 (shimmy) mbB3/f3 in corner for simplicity

F3 on block:
F3 (blocked) (shimmy) neutral j2

Sometimes a jump 2 on block into throw bait, then shimmy into neutral jump.

I have done before:

They were knocked down, I held the mb f3 cancelled it, I then shimmy (they don't take the bait) I then as part of the shimmy do the jump 2 bait (they don't fall for it) so then I have trait back and I do the f23 4 bait into neutral jump and they fall for it, they then took the standard combo, j2 f23 3 3 mbdb2 f3 3 db2.....It looks hilarious but it works, maybe not to this extreme tho haha

 

[gibster13]

Tierlists are coming out a lot atm, normally placing supes top 7.

What do ppl think ?

Personally,

He is good but not that good

 

[Parasurama]

Tierlists are coming out a lot atm, normally placing supes top 7.

What do ppl think ?

Personally,

He is good but not that good

His wake up game is poor but otherwise he is alright. The should have left his mid hitting superman punch. I still see him top 10 but not top 5.

 

[gibster13]

It’s tough

I feel it all those are better;

Cat
Sgirl
Adam
Hood
Hellboi
Arrow
Fate
Manta
Wonderwaham

 

[Parasurama]

It’s tough

I feel it all those are better;

Cat
Sgirl
Adam
Hood
Hellboi
Arrow
Fate
Manta
Wonderwaham

I dont think WW is better... but she does beat Supes.

 

[gibster13]

Just wanted to highlight another fellow Kryptonian and how WellCare he played the matchup. It is not the easiest matchup imo.

On phone so his @ for some reason won’t load


Durpey is his name

 

[masherofbuttons]

Catwoman from that vid reporting in, if anybody wants to run the set I'm glad to do so

 

[Parasurama]

Catwoman from that vid reporting in, if anybody wants to run the set I'm glad to do so

How bad is the catwoman mu? Are there any other terrible mu's?
She meterlessly combos f23 with her b3. Also the parry negates lasers. But I think the f23 issue makes it bad as we have to rely on other poorer options and reads.

 

[masherofbuttons]

How bad is the catwoman mu? Are there any other terrible mu's?
She meterlessly combos f23 with her b3. Also the parry negates lasers. But I think the f23 issue makes it bad as we have to rely on other poorer options and reads.

Ye she does well in the mu. In addition to the things you listed her backdash messes up a lot of pressure options and she has a million ways to OS his wakeups on oki.
It's a bad mu but not as bad as swamp and grodd for example.

 

[ATP2014]

Anybody have any Atom experience? Feel like Superman may be at a slight disadvantage. Similar to Catwoman, Atom low profiles f23 and can teleport on reaction to lasers.