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liu does fine lmao... he has faster s 2 a godlike mixup potential way better than smokes.. only thing smoke has on him is his potential big dmg.
trust me liu doesnt need his zoning in this mu
liu does fine lmao... he has faster s 2 a godlike mixup potential way better than smokes.. only thing smoke has on him is his potential big dmg.
Yeah, meter makes or breaks the match. What's your overall approach to the match? I find midrange to be incredibly difficult to handle--when spacing trance for meter building is not an option (smoke bomb punish), I tend to rely on poking with 11 to hit confirm into 112 trance, but that's about it. Most Smokes I play use D1 to poke under my 11, and also poke the hold in B3, 1+2.
Up close is where i have the most issues. Full screen isnt much of an issue because of quans walk speed. You can block a smoke bomb and just walk forward into sweep range. Punish smoke bomb up close with 212exrune then go for mixup. Damage is similar with combos. we can do 50-60ish one bar if you get the proper combo going. Smoke has the advantage everywhere but quans comeback factor is one of the best in the game
Just to play the devil's advocate here man, it'd be difficult for anyone to declare you the world's best Smoke player when you only went to one offline tournament. By results, Waffles is a top contender for best Smoke.l
you havent even played worlds best smoke . you maybe played a smoke who lives in usa and won some tournaments. you mightve played usa top smoke yes. who are you talking about? lol . and i can write a sonya mu description. you think sonya is 6-4 at its worst elaborate please why you think that? smoke has nothing on sonya . sonya blows him up with ease smoke has no defense. and @STRYKIE how do you hit mileena with him if mileena is smart as sonic fox? you cant just b2 etc . instant airs d4s etc its not easy at all . only a fool mileena does random tele or rolls. like said in original post though cud be wrong bout mileena but i dobt think its s blow over match by any means
I am probably the cockiest Smoke player and even I agree that Wafflez is the best Smoke. He has proven it in my eyes but F that I still would body him free
How can you judge that from only online though?
NO Smoke Downplaying allowed!
When I used to play Xarakamaka it was pretty much playing offline the connection was perfect as we live close... Trust me if I could prove it I would but unfortunately I live too far away.
I hope those mu numbers are a joke.
Mustard and I shared an internet connection in the same house and still got lag when we played. No offence, but I don't believe that.
Trust me our connection was very good.
Explain please, interested to hear your view.
Ketchup what does that even mean.. 'How can you judge that just from online though?'. Are you implying that because we have both played online mainly, we play the game completely differently? Lol.
How can you judge who the best Smoke player is based on playing them online.
I've seen them both play many times and from what I've seen of Xarakamaka and Wafflez, Xarakamaka is definitely better. Wafflez does too many punishable things that will get blown up by the right person imo.
On my phone but screw it haha I will explain the matchup from smoke's perspective.
There's opinions, which everybody is entitled to, but there's also results and actually proving that.
Im sorry but a lot of the stuff you are saying is very incorrect. When sonya scores a knockdown she can actually hit him out of the smoke away a lot to be honest try it.. Good luck using a 19 frame teleport as an anti air to counter something such as the dive kick.. that is not a viable option. His d4 and d3 are great for stopping her pressure? Explain please. By smoke just smoking away he is putting himself in the corner which is where sonya wants him. Whiff punishing a d4 with a smoke bomb against a good sonya will be a very hard task lol the d4 can even avoid the smoke bomb completely.
its impossible for me to proove ketchup as i been one tourny with broken pad which you know, and didnt chose cage smoke or scarlett but regardless this isn't usa and not constant tournaments. ketchup you have to understand were online players and we play footsies and fundamentals how they are meant to be played and more than all the lan players you see in tournaments but you wouldnt know you havent even played us :/ , obviously ppls opinions are gna be waffles as he can get to usa tournaments and play vs people who allow him to do d1 d1 d1 on block etc because they dont know how to stop him from poking . its like me saying to you theres this sektor who does f2 f2 f2 f2 on block and does d1 on block into b34 every game every round and hes the best sektor in the world . your going to disagree. i think waffles is a joke but everyone is entitled to their opinion apart from the level your used to was when you last played with foxy years ago . i dont think you realise how far me and skillful chris aka xholmesyx progressed and learnt pretty much every details gap whiff punish. all frame data for nearly 2 years after you guys quit . i understand what your saying but if mike tyson was from tahiti and couldnt go to usa to win world championship then he knows hes the best but he cant proove himself . i find it insulting to a point and foxy agrees as he hate ppl who d1 d1 d1 d3 on block its actually insulting . but he can call himself the best and people can recognise hes the best smoke because he has the opportunity to do so.
i understand you point of course but if you knew the game well and bothered to watch his fundamentals and what he gets away with then maybe youd be more like "ok xaraka was right he spams pokes and gets away with it" , if i do it vs chris im gna get combod after 1 none hit confirm poke because hes going to combo launch me for not hit confirming pokes. like i did to you in the tourny with broke pad when you did d3 into s1 with sektor and i just combo launched you couple times. this was a smoke mu section and you even bother bringing that up . i dont think you realise how far the skill level has progressed since you were gone
Peer pressure matchup numbers aren't allowed.
youve mentioned his specials dude saying smoke away is viable for what to get to corner. its not gna whiff punish by smoke away then b23 lol . did you read xholmseyx section on the mu on previous page?
, you cant just smoke away and sb . d4 into b2 and expect to win . once hes in the corner he cant just smoke towards through her. you not mentioned anything thats changed the mu from 7-3 just from smoke away sb and tele punch . once shes in he has 16frame s3 . 15 frame b2 and cant use 21 because its going to get full combo punished. which leaves him with what? xholmseyx covered most things previously which makes it an easy 73 mu . can you read it and make points on whats said please 
. i respect your opinion but like to hear what you say back about what he wrote. no sonya should be falling for run away gimmicks . they can smoke away into the corner im happy with that. then its gg 