Kabal beats everyone. KL and Sonya are 4-6's, so the character isn't good.This MU number doesn't matter lol. Smoke's main problem is Kabal, Sonya, and Kung Lao. 3 characters you are pretty much going to see in tournament time after time. K thx bai.
why? Damage wise, both can deal great damage tooI am still convinced cyrax beats smoke 6-4.
The old conventional thoughts on the MU were before a lot of Cyrax tech was discovered or made practical and before we had a high level smoke playing nationally.why? Damage wise, both can deal great damage too
metzosTrolling AK Pig Of The Hut is always funny.
I still remember when you did argue with some decent Ermac player, damn i forgot his name, thou it was funny as hell and lasted quite some time. :>
8-2 was obviously a jokeMy problem with this, is the outrageous claims that are made.
I never said ermac blows smoke up. I never say it is 8-2. 6-4 is not a blow up.
I never say anything of the sort, yet people are always putting words in my mouth.
People are always making shit up and then say IM the crazy one.
This is getting real annoying now. I don't care if you are trolling or if wound is trolling or if bit is trolling.
My problem with this is that you all have so many followers that take anything you say for 100% truth.
Then it is this crowd that just repeats whatever all of you say as if they have no brain and can not think for themselves.
metzos was about sonya and ermacEven better, there were 2 Ermac players with who you argue, the one i was referring to is Seven.
Damn, there was so much salt there, so funny.
Zaf, you are a cool guy but this ridiculous upplaying needs to stop. The fact is that YOU are the one spreading misleading and flat out wrong information to other Ermac players. When you talk about MUs it is clear that you lack understanding of this game at the highest level. Yes I am trolling you when I call you the Ermac upplayer and ask what you have been smoking, but I troll like that because of your crazy theory fighting.My problem with this, is the outrageous claims that are made.
I never said ermac blows smoke up. I never say it is 8-2. 6-4 is not a blow up.
I never say anything of the sort, yet people are always putting words in my mouth.
People are always making shit up and then say IM the crazy one.
This is getting real annoying now. I don't care if you are trolling or if wound is trolling or if bit is trolling.
My problem with this is that you all have so many followers that take anything you say for 100% truth.
Then it is this crowd that just repeats whatever all of you say as if they have no brain and can not think for themselves.
For some reason you always like to ignore what I say.Zaf, you are a cool guy but this ridiculous upplaying needs to stop. The fact is that YOU are the one spreading misleading and flat out wrong information to other Ermac players. When you talk about MUs it is clear that you lack understanding of this game at the highest level. Yes I am trolling you when I call you the Ermac upplayer and ask what you have been smoking, but I troll like that because of your crazy theory fighting.
You got 2/2 of those MU numbers incorrect.Kabal beats everyone. KL and Sonya are 4-6's, so the character isn't good.
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I used to be completely in the court of Smoke beating Cyrax, but he loses 6-4. Smoke has incredible tools against some of Cryax's options, but they are honestly options that Cyrax players don't even need to use in this MU. Cyrax rushdown and pressure are awesome in this MU. It is either 6-4 Rax or a 5-5.The old conventional thoughts on the MU were before a lot of Cyrax tech was discovered or made practical and before we had a high level smoke playing nationally.
Me and Wafflez debate back and forth on this MU all the time, but I really don't think Smoke wins anymore. We are "talking about" Cyrax wining the MU, at the very highest level.
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If u are beating kabals and smokes with ermacs, you are playing with the wrong people. Same with Kenshi. There are only a few people in the scene that play those characters at a high level. Playing the mu means jack if u aren't playing those people. By the way you talk about the Smoke mu, I am willing to bet your MU exp goes beyond theory fighting and a few mediocre Smokes.For some reason you always like to ignore what I say.
I have said countless times that I am not theory fighting. That when I talk about match ups, it is from playing them out.
Did you not hear tom in the latest KK podcast? When he was saying that match ups are not determined in one set, or in one tournament match?
You need to run countless sets, which is what I have been doing.
My methods may seem a little unorthodox, but that is because of how much I extensively try to figure out match ups.
What is wrong with timing characters out, this is a mechanic of the game that can be used.
What is wrong with attempting to fight someone's meter instead of their health, meter is a mechanic of the game.
I know how this game works at the highest level, do not be so insulting.
I never once said ermac beats shang. For a while I had this match up as even. 5 - 5
Then after more extensive playing of this match up ( not even with just you ) I changed how I viewed the match up and I said it was in shangs favor. I know why it is in shangs favor. So there are things we can agree on for sure. But just because we have different opinions on how match ups are played, does not mean that you constantly need to harass me or insult me. Just talk like a normal person. Don't troll me. Talk match ups out. No one has even yet to tell me why smoke beats ermac besides d4 and touch of death. Is this game really that simple that 2 things cause smoke to blow up ermac? Please. Give the game more credit then that.
If u are beating kabals and smokes with ermacs, you are playing with the wrong people. Same with Kenshi. There are only a few people in the scene that play those characters at a high level. Playing the mu means jack if u aren't playing those people. By the way you talk about the Smoke mu, I am willing to bet your MU exp goes beyond theory fighting and a few mediocre Smokes.
Wait, what? AK Pig Of The HutI've never said ermac beats kenshi.
I've always known and said that ermac beats kenshi. So this is irrelevant.
Sonya could beat smoke 7-3. Probably one of my favourite mus in mk9You got 2/2 of those MU numbers incorrect.
Kabal, Sonya, and Kung Lao 7-3 Smoke. I have never had it any other way. These 3 characters are Smoke's issues in MK9.
I used to be completely in the court of Smoke beating Cyrax, but he loses 6-4. Smoke has incredible tools against some of Cryax's options, but they are honestly options that Cyrax players don't even need to use in this MU. Cyrax rushdown and pressure are awesome in this MU. It is either 6-4 Rax or a 5-5.