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Question - A-List Should a list be nerfed

Should a list be nerfed.

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xxFalcon Loverxx

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
Btw if you think i want him to have never ending pressurelike broke kang, no i don't.I just want people to stop saying he needs nerfs smh.IMO he is solid mid tier
 
CheapEddie

CheapEddie

I HAVE A FACE NOW!
xxFalcon Loverxx said:
Ex-force balls doesn't give you any options it can below profiled easily armored out of and poked out of....Why in the world would you say f3 skrc is a hit confirmable footsie tool.....Everyone knows that but a footsie tool that can jail on block doesn't make up for everything he lacks in.Ex nut punch guarantees what 24% damage and ends in nutpunch,Yes it a allows him to get pressure yes but what is that going to do? You are left having to block and eat whatever your opponent's options are.I'm sorry for disrespecting a player like you.I think your johnny is amazing and i hope he does better in tourneys.
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But it is... u have enough time to confirm because of the cancel. Its the same as Kabal f4-nd(ndc) only easier. I believe its possible to confirm 113-rc on block\hit, its just ridiculously difficult to do.
Ex-nutpunch guarantees you a 24% + free 8% meterless jail setup which leave him on neutral. Its not bad. I forgot to say u can change your patterns all the time u want just to make things more complicated for your opps. I agree ex-forceballs can be low profiled but not when its done from f2,4 it does have issues only with Mileena and Cassie if im not wrong. If people can armor or poke out after your ex-forceballs, it makes this option not solid? Ur putting them in situation when they need to make a guess in order to get out so why not use it as a bait for example? And as i said above you are looking to advantage and forget about things like range. How many characters have a meterless answer for "7f" d4? Possible trade with Kotal Kahn`s d1?
I said what in my opinion he`s lacking but if u buff this character in that ways and leave all the stuff he got now he`ll be broken af imao. Right now i see him on tier lists exactly where he deserves to be maybe even better enough to be top 10.
 
xxFalcon Loverxx

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
CheapEddie said:
But it is... u have enough time to confirm because of the cancel. Its the same as Kabal f4-nd(ndc) only easier. I believe its possible to confirm 113-rc on block\hit, its just ridiculously difficult to do.
Ex-nutpunch guarantees you a 24% + free 8% meterless jail setup which leave him on neutral. Its not bad. I forgot to say u can change your patterns all the time u want just to make things more complicated for your opps. I agree ex-forceballs can be low profiled but not when its done from f2,4 it does have issues only with Mileena and Cassie if im not wrong. If people can armor or poke out after your ex-forceballs, it makes this option not solid? Ur putting them in situation when they need to make a guess in order to get out so why not use it as a bait for example? And as i said above you are looking to advantage and forget about things like range. How many characters have a meterless answer for "7f" d4? Possible trade with Kotal Kahn`s d1?
I said what in my opinion he`s lacking but if u buff this character in that ways and leave all the stuff he got now he`ll be broken af imao. Right now i see him on tier lists exactly where he deserves to be maybe even better enough to be top 10.
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I'm not asking for any buffs whatsoever, he doesn't need any he's fine the way he is i never said he needed buffs.Btw you're forceball guess thing, I'll buy it.....Ok you win forceball does give him some options.;)

Not against Cassie doe:DOGE:joker::DOGE
 
Tweedy

Tweedy

Champion
Wigy said:
For my 2 cents.

Hes a very honest character. People just throw his +frames around without any knowledge of how he works and says he needs nerfed.

IMO he is one of the best designed characters in the game.

If he gets nerfed and liu doesn't i will play nothing but cassie and make every liu kangs life a living hell.
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Get zoned betch.
 
Krabman

Krabman

Mortal
Neither Johnny nor Liu should get their pressure nerfed (except for MB flying kick so all of you will stfu about it). They are PRESSURE characters that live and die with PRESSURE. They don't have tons of incredible tools besides their jailing cancels and a couple of specific normals. If you nerf these characters how can you pressure when no one respects it?
 
Kompetitor

Kompetitor

Johnny Cage Specialist
AK Stormthegates said:
Why do people bitch about random shit like Johnny Cage A-list when there are like 4 others characters that do his job better without the mediocre buttons and lack of anti-air? Is it because people ran out of stuff to bitch about Lao/Tanya/Predator/Quan?
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agreed, except cage does have a really good anti air
 
CaptainCM

CaptainCM

Certified trash
In a game where you will obey and ultimately, either learn from this or you will die now, Johnny Cage doesn't deserve any nerfs. If NRS decides to universally change the system (1 bar block breakers), it would be enough of a nerf to him.
 
Kompetitor

Kompetitor

Johnny Cage Specialist
Krabman said:
what is it? I really need help in the Johnny anti air department.
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Well if its a jump from far away (or the character has a crazy jip-ie. sonya, kotal) I use f4 into 11 f3 nutpunch. Any other jumps, i just keep it basic and do standing 2 into fully charged nutpunch, (or 2 skrc 11 f3 nutpunch) this also works as an anti crossup.
 
JDM

JDM

Warrior
Johnny's extremely strong. Do I think he needs to be nerfed? Nah. But I love Johnny and he's one of my mains so I may be a bit biased.

He could probably use some + frames being knocked off his F3, make it so it's not whiff cancellable and that's good enough for me. If this happens buff fisticuffs :3
 
Mista_Snacks

Mista_Snacks

Apprentice
I can conclude that, because the title is riddled with lowercase letters that, I was led to believe that this thread was about a list of characters getting nerfed
 
Rude

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
I think A-List is very good and in no way needs nerfs.

You know, I agree that A-List anti airs aren't amazing but, Cage can low profile a LOT of jump ins.

I think he's fine for the most part.
 
xxFalcon Loverxx

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
Krabman said:
Neither Johnny nor Liu should get their pressure nerfed (except for MB flying kick so all of you will stfu about it). They are PRESSURE characters that live and die with PRESSURE. They don't have tons of incredible tools besides their jailing cancels and a couple of specific normals. If you nerf these characters how can you pressure when no one respects it?
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I respect your points sir!You are the type of person we need, with out pressure johnny and liu kang are nothing.Atleast you are one of the smart people.
 
xxFalcon Loverxx

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
Rude said:
I think A-List is very good and in no way needs nerfs.

You know, I agree that A-List anti airs aren't amazing but, Cage can low profile a LOT of jump ins.

I think he's fine for the most part.
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No one respond to this guy.....He mains Quan Chi
:DOGE
 
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