General/Other - Shinnok Shinnok General Discussion Thread

[gibster13]

Point is I don't trust his judgment if he didn't properly test it.
Characters like Raiden and Tremor might be able to punish it, and 6f pokes might get it. I'll do a proper test later.

They can't

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Does MB shoulder AA for a combo? i'd assume it does.
Now shoulder can be that crazy "cover everything move" that you can just throw out whenever you feel like it if you have a bar of meter.

Still want to see some high level Shinnok play from Woundcowboy or whoever...

 

[True Grave]

Hand smash cancel is 100% safe after a hand grab.

 

[Juggs]

Keep in mind that on block, the MB shoulder launcher is back dashable. That said it's still safe outside of armored reversals, and there's the mind game there of not even burning the meter so they either back dash, block or go for an armored reversal which is NOT the optimal punish and they use a bar of meter. Not to mention you can essentially make it an armored launcher for 2 bars if you MB the initial shoulder.

No armor on scepter slam hurts Boneshaper, but it's not that bad of a nerf considering armored launchers were universally nerfed.

Necromancer is better but not top tier in my opinion. Hard to say for sure this soon after the patch, but Necro still has the same issues. It definitely is for sure better and possibly viable now though. Amulet Strike buff helps a lot.

 

[gibster13]

@cR WoundCowboy I need your advice with the Bone shaper Shinnok match up vs Sektor (Ketchup)

I had no idea what to do I got bodied by him and he said last time you fought him, you bodied him 5-1. Any tips for that match up and against Ketchup in general ??

 

[cR WoundCowboy]

@cR WoundCowboy I need your advice with the Bone shaper Shinnok match up vs Sektor (Ketchup)

I had no idea what to do I got bodied by him and he said last time you fought him, you bodied him 5-1. Any tips for that match up and against Ketchup in general ??

Just try to stay in his face, use the armored shoulder to counterzone and get a knockdown. His armor isn't threatening. Alternatively you could try necro since shinnok trades very well, just remember to alternate bone hands spam with teleport baits.

 

[gibster13]

Just try to stay in his face, use the armored shoulder to counterzone and get a knockdown. His armor isn't threatening. Alternatively you could try necro since shinnok trades very well, just remember to alternate bone hands spam with teleport baits.

Ok cheers ! I have tried to avoid necro (just not a fan of his flick) but why not apparently he is better

 

[Parasurama]

Just try to stay in his face, use the armored shoulder to counterzone and get a knockdown. His armor isn't threatening. Alternatively you could try necro since shinnok trades very well, just remember to alternate bone hands spam with teleport baits.

Well done at SCR... so is Bone shaper is still the best variation?

 

[cR WoundCowboy]

Well done at SCR... so is Bone shaper is still the best variation?

Thanks. I'd say yes, it's his most well rounded variation.

 

[SaSSolino]

Some of you has some high level Necromancer footage? I didn't really had time to play since patch.

 

[Parasurama]

Thanks. I'd say yes, it's his most well rounded variation.

I was rooting for you.

 

[freerf245]

I was told you could combo after bone flick. Is this true?

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Anyone have any high level Bone Shaper vids to link? There are a ton on YouTube of Wound and such, but I cant seem to find anything since the last patch.. Id like to find newer stuff.. He has me really interested and Im trying to put together a little spec sheet for him.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

I was told you could combo after bone flick. Is this true?

Ex flick to otg judgement fist

 

[HiddenSelectCounterPick]

It just dawned on me, I need an expert Shinnok main on this but I'm at work and can't lab it.... Can imposter IA Tele after consuming a projectile from full screen into punish? (Using Amulet or Ex)

 

[Youphemism]

It just dawned on me, I need an expert Shinnok main on this but I'm at work and can't lab it.... Can imposter IA Tele after consuming a projectile from full screen into punish? (Using Amulet or Ex)

Amulet has quite a bit of recovery on it, more than most projectiles so I doubt it.

 

[HiddenSelectCounterPick]

Amulet has quite a bit of recovery on it, more than most projectiles so I doubt it.

I've been trying to be real swaggy lately online if I see them about to throw a projectile I IA Tele but I thought it'd be cool, Also if any of you are on Xbox I'm down for some sets I'll be off work in two hours or so
XBL: I Am Shem

 

[HiddenSelectCounterPick]

I feel I'm the only one still labbing shinnok
Despite that I found a new gimmick for those ppl online trying to fuzy block against imposter.
It is a small combo but it gets them into micicry.
JIP(2) Because it's more +
So :JIP-IA Tele~B4-DB1 (It's a double OH)
Works on most characters, you want to always have their move cause your base combos and upercut and grab are stronger.
Message back if you find something else useful!

 

[HiddenSelectCounterPick]

 

[legion666]

I feel I'm the only one still labbing shinnok
Despite that I found a new gimmick for those ppl online trying to fuzy block against imposter.
It is a small combo but it gets them into micicry.
JIP(2) Because it's more +
So :JIP-IA Tele~B4-DB1 (It's a double OH)
Works on most characters, you want to always have their move cause your base combos and upercut and grab are stronger.
Message back if you find something else useful!

That might work online but offline there is about 30 frames between Jip and tele into b4. And there is about 7 frames between Jip and the f4 ( the low option). There is plenty of time to block low after a Jip and then stand up in time when you see Impostor disappear. Even doing a ji2 xx tele, ji1 is a closer overhead, overhead but still is about 24 frames apart. The best way to avoid fuzzying after a Jip if you going for a mix up is to do Jip straight into either b3 or the delayed f4.

 

[Parasurama]

That might work online but offline there is about 30 frames between Jip and tele into b4. And there is about 7 frames between Jip and the f4 ( the low option). There is plenty of time to block low after a Jip and then stand up in time when you see Impostor disappear. Even doing a ji2 xx tele, ji1 is a closer overhead, overhead but still is about 24 frames apart. The best way to avoid fuzzying after a Jip if you going for a mix up is to do Jip straight into either b3 or the delayed f4.

Someone please tell me how the damage buff works for mimicry?

 

[Error]

Someone please tell me how the damage buff works for mimicry?

After you hit mimicry you get a damage buff for a few seconds and a stolen move that lasts until you use it.

 

[ILuvFightGames]

How do you block shinnoks necromancer drop move where his hand or foot whatever comes from the top? Is it unblockable?

 

[DC4-3]

How do you block shinnoks necromancer drop move where his hand or foot whatever comes from the top? Is it unblockable?

Yes it's unblockable. You can run or backdash on reaction to Shinnok raising his arm and if they didn't predict what you were going to do correctly it'll whiff.

 

[blue dragon]

Yes it's unblockable. You can run or backdash on reaction to Shinnok raising his arm and if they didn't predict what you were going to do correctly it'll whiff.

I would like to ask you a question about bone shaper, after connecting diety(f22+L1), you have a restand/reset, what normal move do you suggest I use to follow that is cancellable into db2, df2, bf3 or bf1, thanks for your time