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Juggs

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Scorpion & Ferra is ridiculously good. So is Motaro. I think with these 2 Kameos along with the buffs he got, Scorpion is no longer low tier. Definitely not top tier but I don’t see him being low tier anymore
 

kabelfritz

Master
does anyone else have massive problems against scorpion right now? he can just back off and do whatever he wants it seems. if your character doesnt have any powerful neutral skip tool, every mediocre scorpion can easily lame you out.
 

Juggs

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does anyone else have massive problems against scorpion right now? he can just back off and do whatever he wants it seems. if your character doesnt have any powerful neutral skip tool, every mediocre scorpion can easily lame you out.
We (Scorpion mains) have leveled up significantly from the buffs. Like, there’s actually people PICKING UP Scorpion in this game for the first time now. Unfortunately, since people have a hate boner for Scorpion, I doubt he’ll stay as he is for long. Even though he’s still not top tier, he just isn’t low tier anymore.
 
I'm one of those new Scorpion players! I picked him up due to a combo of the free movie skin and Ferra! B3 works so nice with Ferra, as does stand 21 since you can do a ferra stand njp for half the bar. Ending combos with a 2nd spear hard knockdown seems to help get good Pain and gain setups too. And throw combos of course. I think Ferra also works well since she compliments Scorpion's suprisingly combo scaling. I hope they don't nerf ferra's damage, I think if they must nerf her take away 5% health and slightly reduce blockstun and or range. Also if anyone else has any cool tech plz share!
 

spidey300

Warrior
I'm one of those new Scorpion players! I picked him up due to a combo of the free movie skin and Ferra! B3 works so nice with Ferra, as does stand 21 since you can do a ferra stand njp for half the bar. Ending combos with a 2nd spear hard knockdown seems to help get good Pain and gain setups too. And throw combos of course. I think Ferra also works well since she compliments Scorpion's suprisingly combo scaling. I hope they don't nerf ferra's damage, I think if they must nerf her take away 5% health and slightly reduce blockstun and or range. Also if anyone else has any cool tech plz share!
she just compliments him so well. this might've been exactly what he needed. ain't trying to be pessimistic but I guess just enjoy it while it lasts because nrs hates fun and scorpion apparently
 

ticklebandit!

Apprentice
I love putting people in the vortex with ferra. It reminds me of scorpion from mk9, but way stronger.

I always love chars that let me end combo’s in a variety of ways. I’ve gotten a lot of rage quits or just angry people in general lol. But yeah after spear doing 33 fera into guess, or ending with bf2 in the corner into pressure. Or mid screen tele ender into pressure or yolo tele ferra call. Throw some pain and gain and tick throws in the mix. Guess wrong like twice and my opponents basically dead
 

spidey300

Warrior
I love putting people in the vortex with ferra. It reminds me of scorpion from mk9, but way stronger.

I always love chars that let me end combo’s in a variety of ways. I’ve gotten a lot of rage quits or just angry people in general lol. But yeah after spear doing 33 fera into guess, or ending with bf2 in the corner into pressure. Or mid screen tele ender into pressure or yolo tele ferra call. Throw some pain and gain and tick throws in the mix. Guess wrong like twice and my opponents basically dead
I'm always getting people that are really proud of themselves that they beat my scorpion when they're using a clearly stronger character usually with a dlc assist. Now I get to play the game
 
Does anyone use f4 button? I think it is useless to have, it scales and is a high and no reason to use it while you have f32. I wish we have something else for f4
 

Bloodfang

The Immortal Tiger
Is Scorpion being higher on tier lists purely do to Ferra? Or has some other changes happened while I been gone playing other things?
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
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to reflect the player level in knowledge, execution and decisionmaking in a manner similar to other characters
Easy to use doesn’t necessarily mean easy to win with. Also, most characters in this game are relatively easy to use. Regardless, I prefer fighting games where characters are easier to use but there’s a lot of depth especially with mind games (like UMK3 for instance). I’d rather lose to someone that outplayed me in some way, whether it was just better fundamentals or mind games, than win against someone that just dropped their combo or had some sort of execution error.

So yeah, unless the character is super broken, I don’t really see any benefit to making them harder to use
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
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I'd rather have scorpion be less boring to play than harder to play. MKX was peak scorpion IMO.
MK1 Scorpion is one of the most fun characters to play as in all of MK1. MKX was peak before he got nerfed, then he was meh. Scorpion is never allowed to be good for some reason ¯\(ツ)
 

Felipe_Gewehr

Twinktile
MK1 Scorpion is one of the most fun characters to play as in all of MK1. MKX was peak before he got nerfed, then he was meh. Scorpion is never allowed to be good for some reason ¯\(ツ)
I think the mk1 version is (for me, obviously) even more boring than the mk11 one (which is saying something...).

The MKX one had very fast starting normals with quick recovering, and the cancels added more variety to strings. The mk1 one is too reliant on f3 staggers and walk back into s2/s1 whiff punishing, which I dislike. Of course, this is all personal taste
 

Juggs

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I think the mk1 version is (for me, obviously) even more boring than the mk11 one (which is saying something...).

The MKX one had very fast starting normals with quick recovering, and the cancels added more variety to strings. The mk1 one is too reliant on f3 staggers and walk back into s2/s1 whiff punishing, which I dislike. Of course, this is all personal taste
The MK11 version was also super fun. Even though I use Scorpion in a lot of MK games, I’m not necessarily a loyalist or specialist or whatever it’s called. He just tends to be the most fun character to me in these games and his playstyle typically is what most closely matches my own or how I like to play. For instance I never liked or used Scorpion in MK9. But yeah, MK1 Scorpion is probably my favorite Scorpion outside of prepatched MKX Scorpion. But I really liked MK11 Scorpion as well. My love for Scorpion gameplay wise actually stems from Human Smoke in UMK3. Since as far as gameplay goes, HSmoke was just a better version of Scorpion in that game. Like, I actually planned to main HSmoke in this game, even started out doing just that. But Scorpion was just so much more fun and better fit my playstyle.

Anyway, to each their own
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
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my goodness this character. you can lab this game for hundreds of hours and he can still beat you with runaway spear and teleport mixups, given the matchup.
People need to lab against his spear more though. Every character, or at least every character when I tested this before some of the newer DLC characters, can punish his spear from full screen.

His runaway game is strong though especially with Kameos like Motaro. Which has become my favorite way to play him. Since only a couple characters can REALLY zone out their opponents and play lame, it’s fun laming out the opponent in a different way. And especially in this game where like I said, most players aren’t used to having to be super patient. So the runaway style breaks most players mental. With this style, I’ve gotten more rage quit than I ever have doing anything else. Granted I haven’t played in awhile so this was awhile ago, but still