Tech - Demolition Safe reloads 2.0

[MsMiharo]

I dont think this would work against kenshi because i could wake up telefury and punish you for it

Pretty sure F4 works. Can you test it? I won't be able to until Sunday

 

[MsMiharo]

Keep in mind that video is made just after the patch came out! I'm working on new ones but I won't be home for a few days

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

It is not safe vs everything. Some projectiles beat it and If they're hanging slightly lower on the last sg you'll be tagged by scorpions tele. 2134 is safe vs slide even if they don't tech roll but it's a just frame. F4 is better

Yea, to get a safe F4 xx Reload you need to hit them pretty high. It's for 2 or less grenade combos.

 

[scarsunseen]

you can simply end a combo with B1-dd1... it's safe!

B14 works better in the corner of course because it's easier, but B1 by itself seems to be a better option for midscreen.

 

[MsMiharo]

Yea, to get a safe F4 xx Reload you need to hit them pretty high. It's for 2 or less grenade combos.

Ah fair enough. As I said you can make it work with 3 but it's really not worth it. 2134 is more damage anyways. You don't even NEED to run if you're out of stamina. But it's easier execution.

 

[scarsunseen]

Safe mid-screen reload with B1-dd1 ender

 

[MsMiharo]

Safe mid-screen reload with B1-dd1 ender

B1 is HKD as well as b14? Sick

 

[scarsunseen]

B1 is HKD as well as b14? Sick

Yessss sir! It's hard to hit b14-dd1 midscreen, so I tried it with just b1-dd1 instead, and it worked!

 

[DaZengie]

Yessss sir! It's hard to hit b14-dd1 midscreen, so I tried it with just b1-dd1 instead, and it worked!

Err...I don't think ending a juggle with just b1 is a HKD. Opponent can still tech roll.

If they do not tech roll and do a wake up, the reload is still safe though.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

Ah fair enough. As I said you can make it work with 3 but it's really not worth it. 2134 is more damage anyways. You don't even NEED to run if you're out of stamina. But it's easier execution.

Yea I love to use 2134 when playing Covert Ops because it has a lot of hit advantage despite being a soft knockdown. 2 free dashes before they even get to tech roll/wake-up.

EDIT: I did some testing and idk how I was able to get F4 xx Reload safely vs Kenshi before but I'm wrong. Tele-flurry on wake-up tech-roll or not punishes it. So 2134 vs them and F4 vs Reptile and the like. Just like in the OP.

you can simply end a combo with B1-dd1... it's safe!

B14 works better in the corner of course because it's easier, but B1 by itself seems to be a better option for midscreen.

Idk how you are testing things but B1 is definitely not a HKD

 

[WidowPuppy]

Gonna have to pick up Ms. Blade again [at some point], this variation is looking really strong. Kinda waiting to see if they nerf her grenades in combos damage/scaling correctly, and how much that affects it.

Some great tech coming out for her Lately. Thanks for posting this MsMiharo, and everyone else adding new Sonya Demo tech. Wish Jacqui had a viable airborne HKD with enough recovery frames to actually set up shop midscreen.

 

[Scott The Scot]

Sonya's X-Ray is +63 on hit so she should be able to safely reload after that...

Right @Youphemism ?

 

[Youphemism]

@MsMiharo I'm assuming you tagged people in the edit because I didn't get a notification for this...but yeah just so you know tags don't work if you're editing them into a post, you just have to make a new post. I'll tag everyone that you tagged that hasn't seen this yet

Good stuff though, I'd just like to see everything in action against tech rolls and not because I'm meticulous and need to make sure everything works off of every setup against everyone lol #TechMonsterHabits

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[scarsunseen]

I tested it by setting the computer to wake-up ice slide. Was that the incorrect thing to do?

 

[scarsunseen]

Err...I don't think ending a juggle with just b1 is a HKD. Opponent can still tech roll.

If they do not tech roll and do a wake up, the reload is still safe though.

Huh that's interesting. I only had the computer set to wake-up... not roll and wake-up.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

I tested it by setting the computer to wake-up ice slide. Was that the incorrect thing to do?

Putting tech-roll on is how you test HKDs. If a move is truly a HKD, the opponent won't tech-roll despite being set to do so

 

[scarsunseen]

Thank you for clarifying!

 

[MsMiharo]

@MsMiharo I'm assuming you tagged people in the edit because I didn't get a notification for this...but yeah just so you know tags don't work if you're editing them into a post, you just have to make a new post. I'll tag everyone that you tagged that hasn't seen this yet

Good stuff though, I'd just like to see everything in action against tech rolls and not because I'm meticulous and need to make sure everything works off of every setup against everyone lol #TechMonsterHabits

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Ah exactly what happens. Thanks

 

[scarsunseen]

Here's the thing, 112 wasn't cancellable before in the first place so what's the point of increasing its cancel advantage?! I also want to know exactly what it means by "adjust[ing] the damage & hit stun of the grenade attacks". More damage? Less damage? And why the hitstun? It's the block advantage we want buffed damn it!

When out of grenades: 112 ex-dd1, my friend

 

[scarsunseen]

A couple easy mid-screen reloads if you only have one grenade.

 

[MsMiharo]

A couple easy mid-screen reloads if you only have one grenade.

You get more damage out of 2134 ended which works vs non-slide WU

 

[scarsunseen]

true! Good to know both!