EGP Wonder_Chef
Official Quan Chi Nerf Demander™
There is no way that KF is 6-4 vs Superman
Oh wow, I didn't even realize she was listed as that.
Yeah, these are good points especially about him shutting down iceberg and daggers. I think he gets a 40% 1 bar punish off an overhead teleport which is scary. I am playing MMH too now and a lot of his options that make him a great and versatile character make him good against KF. I think everyone can interrupt that 22b3 string with the wind up punch, so if you are playing MMH you have to learn to hit confirm that against good players (even though it is + on block which is pretty sexy). 22b3 launches 222 ends with the overhead that leaves you right next to him or you can always YOLO cancel into the low grab I guess.
I could definitely see 5-5 just because of how strong Superman is as a character. I definitely do not think KF is at any disadvantage in this MU. She is able to remove the thread of braindead Superman pressure with her parry, he is no threat from full screen which will force him to move in which gives KF opportunities to get damage. Mistakes in zoning inside of full screen can lead to some really big punishes. The threat of meterless vortex is pretty good in this MU because baiting wakeups lead to big punishes whereas the damage risk is not enough stop KF players from using it. If she didn't have parry in this MU I would agree that she would probably be at a disadvantage. I think that move is huge in this MU.
It is a very annoying MU to fight and KF players that aren't patient in this MU can get mopped up. I struggled a lot when I first started playing the MU and suffered from this. I am still not the best in this MU or anything and still think I can improve, but I wouldn't call it a bad MU. It doesn't take many slip ups from the HG player who is in the air most of this match to lose rounds.
Reo now has a way to punish her slide on reaction but I don't want to reveal it here becsuse it's his tech and two why help mmh players out lol. Also you can't jump can't throw projectiles and can't slide. Thanks khaotic for helping Reo figure it out lol.
I feel the same exact way about Aqua, before the damage nerf I thought it was probably 6-4. Now that the removed the trait cancel advantage and made her damage more fair, I think the MU is more fair as a result. It still sucks for him that he can't really just throw out ground trident without risking a hefty punish though.I see no reason why Aquaman vs KF isn't 5-5. So, I agree there. I think she won slightly before the dmg nerf but thats in the past
I haven't played Flash vs KF much, but shes one of the few chars where he can get up for free for nearly free if he has a bar, so thats nice. Probably even or slightly in KF's favor, IMO. I haven't played it nearly as much as the Aquaman vs KF MU though.
I see. Then it's simple: At the start of the match throw sand in REO's eyes.Reo now has a way to punish her slide on reaction but I don't want to reveal it here becsuse it's his tech and two why help mmh players out lol. Also you can't jump can't throw projectiles and can't slide. Thanks khaotic for helping Reo figure it out lol.
Insert RiBBz and Khaotik facepalms here
I'll tell you in private but he started doing this thing where he was punishing slide and I couldn't believe it they were all reads. I asked him and he told me he was doing it on reactionLol HG players are funny.
And sorry Claude.
then an hour later I really believed it.
The way she gets damage is not entirely the same. With Aqua's trait even on block pressure KF would get free 50-50 opportunities before. This led to a lot of additional push blocking from Aqua players robbing them of their meter in order to stay safe of having to block the 50-50
Do you have any reason for this, or are you basing it off of the same non-applicable situations Khao does?
I think against predictable Frost's that use slide too much in this MU could make things easier for Bane with all of his armor added with his venom buffs. After the Patch she can no longer KO him from a level 3 de-buff with one right guess off her 50-50 after a punish so that is sad to lose
. A lot of Bane's options to get in are really easily punished even without the ability to parry the charge anymore. When I play this MU I feel like I can run away and do whatever I want to do. It is easy for her to get away from him when he is at his most dangerous and get right back in when he is at his most vulnerable.
Yeah, but the entire cast doesn't have punishes that put you into a 50-50 guessing game so 1 slip up could potentially be a huge deal. Then after that the HG may not have a life lead and will not be able to simply lame out KF. HG has a lot of good options in the air against KF, but KF is able to get around pretty much any of them on a good read with proper spacing. I think the one thing that could make this a definitive 4-6 MU would be if HG's downward mace toss hit KF full screen.