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Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Raijin VS V3 Joker. I think the player here plays this MU alright, but he does a lot of random unsafe moves (poke~DB4AMP, ) and hence eats a lot of punishes. He does alright anti-airing with S1 though since the Joker player is pretty jump-happy.

I play both characters but I've only played the MU once and lost. I don't think it's to bad for us. We can discharge punish a lot of his strings but we have to guess whether or not he lets boxing gloves rip (I'll have to test if BF2 jails from strings since iirc it's a high). If he does F14~BF2 at close range we can still punish so there's that. Unfortunately he out-damages us and F14 and F21 are harder (-ish??) to whiff punish but we have F11 and B12. In the corner Joker is only 0 on advantage so I think wake up buttons is an option we cannot ignore. I think utilising D4 in the neutral to stuff his F2 attempts is important as it sets up our F4 as well, and we can easily trip guard his JI1. From full screen I think he holds slight advantage since all his projectiles knock down and he can set up massive plus frames off BF4 AMP (bouncing jack in the box), but it's not that we can't contest.

EDIT: we can also BF3 UNDER Joker's BF1 projectile. Flying out of the corner is also a viable option for us to escape pressure. This guy also has superb conversions off of his F3s and F2s. Throw techs are on point as well.
 
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Nevan_PTF

All your mains belong to me!
So far all the Jokers I played against are V1 so it's just playing it lame, bf3 to punish his low projectile and getting quick charge active is a must.

He is annoying to fight against and can easily put into a disadvantage due to his damage.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
So far all the Jokers I played against are V1 so it's just playing it lame, bf3 to punish his low projectile and getting quick charge active is a must.

He is annoying to fight against and can easily put into a disadvantage due to his damage.
I think V1 isn’t too hard to deal with. We both out damage him and can still contest full screen with DB4. Will need to play more though.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
TW VS the spins
Dalphanate is back. I'd still prefer Raijin but I see the allure of teleport to get around air saw. I don't think we trade favourably with that move if we do summon lightning. However I've been doing fine with Raijin so far. Discharge deals with Kabal's staggers pretty well and they have to respect it after every string, opening up further options (poke, mid) to challenge and start our own pressure. Since none of Kabal's mids move him forward I think we can whiff punish him fairly easily with our good back walk speed. We also match Kabal's damage output (less so in TW due to the jump kick nerf).
 

Nevan_PTF

All your mains belong to me!
TW VS the spins
Dalphanate is back. I'd still prefer Raijin but I see the allure of teleport to get around air saw. I don't think we trade favourably with that move if we do summon lightning. However I've been doing fine with Raijin so far. Discharge deals with Kabal's staggers pretty well and they have to respect it after every string, opening up further options (poke, mid) to challenge and start our own pressure. Since none of Kabal's mids move him forward I think we can whiff punish him fairly easily with our good back walk speed. We also match Kabal's damage output (less so in TW due to the jump kick nerf).
I agree with your take. Raijin does better than TW. Even if they whiff Air Saw you can tag them with DB2 and discharge is a must have, otherwise it's really hard to get out of his pressure.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Premium Supporter
Watching Joker poke Raiden wit his cane and I'm like "it'd be cool if Raiden actually used his 7 foot frame or staff"
I know right? Jokers cane has nutty range way better than raidens....joker is the Male jade with his d2 you have to be careful of jumping attacks