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Crimson Panther

Crimson Panther

Noob
I'm out of town right now so when I get back to a computer I'll update the OP.

In the meantime, any and all MUs that are outdated or you don't agree with I'd be glad to hear all your opinions.
Keep in mind all the variables such as; stage, meter and trait.

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EGP Wonder_Chef

EGP Wonder_Chef

Official Quan Chi Nerf Demander™
I am beginning to think that the Cyborg matchup isn't as bad as some of the others. At least with Cyborg you can duck walk duck walk duck walk and get in. Once you get in you can control the space that he likes I think.

Not saying it's good, just not feeling it as a hell matchup right now. What do you guys think his current worst are? Deathstroke and Superman feel TERRIBLE to me.
 
G4S KT

G4S KT

Gaming4Satan Founder
EGP Wonder_Chef said:
I am beginning to think that the Cyborg matchup isn't as bad as some of the others. At least with Cyborg you can duck walk duck walk duck walk and get in. Once you get in you can control the space that he likes I think.

Not saying it's good, just not feeling it as a hell matchup right now. What do you guys think his current worst are? Deathstroke and Superman feel TERRIBLE to me.
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I've played those match ups A LOT against classy sasquatch, j360, jailhouse, and played KDZ in tournament and MM at ECT and I feel the opposite.

I never thought cyborg was that bad either until jailhouse started being able to get iagbs as low as possible. They can be done low enough where you can't even walk forward before the next one is on top of you thanks to the outrageous start up of GLs walk.

Death stroke is still really tricky after the nerf but its doable.

I'd rather fight supes than either of those two
 
afrozilla86

afrozilla86

Apprentice
Not really if he armors gatlin ex wrecks him, and on top of that dd offline is pretty meh to backdash. the overhead low online instahit is the only real challenge but every character should have something good about them.
 
EGP Wonder_Chef

EGP Wonder_Chef

Official Quan Chi Nerf Demander™
KT Smith said:
I've played those match ups A LOT against classy sasquatch, j360, jailhouse, and played KDZ in tournament and MM at ECT and I feel the opposite.

I never thought cyborg was that bad either until jailhouse started being able to get iagbs as low as possible. They can be done low enough where you can't even walk forward before the next one is on top of you thanks to the outrageous start up of GLs walk.

Death stroke is still really tricky after the nerf but its doable.

I'd rather fight supes than either of those two
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Okay maybe I just haven't fought any at 100% execution yet.

At that level can anyone get past the fireballs?
 
afrozilla86

afrozilla86

Apprentice
KT Smith said:
I've played those match ups A LOT against classy sasquatch, j360, jailhouse, and played KDZ in tournament and MM at ECT and I feel the opposite.

I never thought cyborg was that bad either until jailhouse started being able to get iagbs as low as possible. They can be done low enough where you can't even walk forward before the next one is on top of you thanks to the outrageous start up of GLs walk.

Death stroke is still really tricky after the nerf but its doable.

I'd rather fight supes than either of those two
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Is that after the patch, cause after patch it didn't seem nearly as bad to me. Prepatch you had to get knocked out of air and wakeup missile to delay that fireball spam, now I can at least jump over one and react accordingly.
 
Crimson Panther

Crimson Panther

Noob
Considering I'm unable to go to majors right now I haven't been able to play all MUs such as Cyborg and others at high level.

I'm listening to you all that have for those so keep giving your outlook on them.

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FinalBoss_FGC

FinalBoss_FGC

Day -4MONTHS Dual Jin main
AK Pig Of The Hut
I guess I'll try it next time we play...it sure as hell will feel different lol

KT Smith
Raven's Soul Crush can catch people mid-air lol the range on that move is ridiculous. Not to mention Demon Pillars basically takes away GL's zoning tools. I think Raven wins this MU (or at least on paper)
 
G4S KT

G4S KT

Gaming4Satan Founder
McPeak said:
AK Pig Of The Hut
I guess I'll try it next time we play...it sure as hell will feel different lol

KT Smith
Raven's Soul Crush can catch people mid-air lol the range on that move is ridiculous. Not to mention Demon Pillars basically takes away GL's zoning tools. I think Raven wins this MU (or at least on paper)
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Max height rockets cause soul crush to whiff under it. You can only punish on the way down if the rocket whiffs which it normally won't since its max height unless it was spaced poorly.

What are your set ups to get demon stance off safely? It can be hit with standing rocket for big damage if you just press he button.
 
Crimson Panther

Crimson Panther

Noob
OMEGAFIREBLAZER said:
i think it is worse for the gl senestro match up for senestro because of all the stuff he has in advantage i play both but i always choose senestro against gl because it works out so well i think it would be more of a 3-7 to 5-5 but that is just my opinion
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What everyone needs to keep in mind when talking about MUs Is what stage you're on (more specifically what kind of interactables are there), who has more meter and traits.

All these can change the MU especially in the GL vs Sinestro MU.
Because it can change so often during the match, after I get back from out of town, I'll be re-doing the chart that doesn't involve numbers.

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FinalBoss_FGC

FinalBoss_FGC

Day -4MONTHS Dual Jin main
KT Smith said:
Max height rockets cause soul crush to whiff under it. You can only punish on the way down if the rocket whiffs which it normally won't since its max height unless it was spaced poorly.

What are your set ups to get demon stance off safely? It can be hit with standing rocket for big damage if you just press he button.
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Just depends on what's safest at the time...against zoners, it's easy to jump over projectile and go to demon stance which can then be teleported and knock them full screen...demon pillars after. That's what works for me at least
 
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OMEGAFIREBLAZER

Noob
GnG CrimsonPanther said:
What everyone needs to keep in mind when talking about MUs Is what stage you're on (more specifically what kind of interactables are there), who has more meter and traits.

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well i have fought him many of the times in places like the batcave lab and atlantus where everyone is pretty even for the match
 
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OMEGAFIREBLAZER

Noob
Tortonon said:
If you guys think Raven-GL is 5-5, you probably haven't faced at least a decent Raven.
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i'd have to agree i have versed the computer on hard alot of times and i'm use to the hard computer but i know some of the things to punish her on but she had A LOT of stuff to punish me on
 
Tortonon

Tortonon

YOLO is power
she deals more damage per MB, outranges our lift, has a friggin trait-teleport and pillar-zoning. She doesn't have a slide and an aerial projectile, but she can stuff both of them from a world away. It's ridiculously up-hill to fight.
 
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OMEGAFIREBLAZER

Noob
Tortonon said:
she deals more damage per MB, outranges our lift, has a friggin trait-teleport and pillar-zoning. She doesn't have a slide and an aerial projectile, but she can stuff both of them from a world away. It's ridiculously up-hill to fight.
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i agree but the raven match up i think is in raven's favor
 
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