bipolar_shango
" Bros before Hoes"
Back dash lightening and D4 would like to have a word with you.
Back dash lightening and D4 would like to have a word with you.
D4 is about the only thing that is even thinkable. backdash lightning? Are you mad? trying to dash back first of all when lao is using 7 frame normals is most likely impossible. Secondly youre going to dash back and throw lightning? If anything i would b2 or 4 but like i said this probly isnt even possible to just backdash away from lao or any character for that matter while they are pressuring.
Its not like rain can mount an entire game off of d4. He isnt sonya. Its also pretty risky to just throw out a 12 frame poke against a character like lao.
"Reads" brother, "reads"... thats all there is to it. And that goes both ways.
So every MU is 5-5 then? Cool.
No. Every character with an 8 frame normal beats 8-2.
Lao 21 isnt just 7 frames. It hits mid on rain when hes crouch blocking. A 7 FRAME MID. Then because of rains hitbox he has to worry about all of laos tele shenanigans which are still not easy to deal with for most of the cast unless you have a fast uppercut (rain does not). Then you have to factor in laos mobility, the fact that he can outzone and counter rain in a ton of ways. You have no chance of staying away from or laming lao out with rain. Im done discussing this MU cause kenshi is the only thing that comes close to how retarded it is to fight against lao with rain.No. Every character with an 8 frame normal beats 8-2.
Rain has so much more range/damage than Shang.
I guess its different, but I've had all the KL experience anybody could ask for. Playing him, and against PL, FK, UFG. The characters weaknesses are there, you just gotta know how to capitalize.
Since some of you wanted to know (and you all love numbers and lists and such), heres what I think for Rain at the moment:
I put question marks next to those I havent had enough experience against using Rain.
Baraka 6-4
Cybersub 5-5
Cyrax 5-5
Ermac 5-5
Freddy ???
Jade ???
Jax 6-4
Cage 5-5
Kabal 4-6
Kano 7-3
Kenshi 3-7
Kitana 3-7
Kung lao 5-5
Liu kang 6-4
Mileena 5-5
Nightwolf 7-3
Noob 6-4
Quan chi 6-4
Raiden 5-5
Reptile 5-5
Scorpion 7-3
Sektor 5-5
Shang 6-4
Sheeva 7-3
Sindel 4-6
Skarlet 4-6
Smoke 5-5
Sonya 5-5
Stryker ???
Sub zero 5-5
In general Rain beats those with worse footsie tools, goes even on those that rely heavily on good footsie tools, (Sonya, Mileena, Raiden, Sektor etc.) and loses to those with good projectiles that move them backwards (except for Kabals iAGB).
He does well against rushdown characters. Struggles more so against turtles, other than SZ.
I rate him pretty highly because:
- 2 connected 4RH kicks is a round won
- RH cancels are effectively a safe 50/50 that takes no meter and can only be stopped by meter or the opponent interupting.
- 4RH has redonkulous reach.
- He can drain meter, which is great against characters like Cyrax/Smoke who will generally do alot less damage meterless.
- No respect armour is a great psychological advantage in a close game.
- 9 and 10f starters that naturally link into RH
- Good anti airs
- Good options against opponents wakeups.
- Lightning can be used to whiff punish alot of things anywhere on the screen.
- Probably most likely character in the game to get you toasty boosts
2 doesnt hit mid its not that simple. I do think 21/24 works great but rain can safely armor out for full combo and the lao player needs to be aware of pokes and space correctly with that string
21 hits mid on rain crouch blocking. all of 1121 except the first 1 also hits mid.
thats not what you call a mid, a mid will connect regardless of crouch block/ neutral crouch.
you cannot dash out of 21 pressure lol
if all the lao player is doing is 21/24 pressure you on point blank and not spacing it at all and he doesnt spin on read. all you need to do is after 21 d4 him and follow up with 4/3 since both hit mid and fast enough, you will always be able to follow up your d4 on hit. kung lao cannot, even if he hits you with d4 you will always be able to hit kung lao with a d4 to stop his pressure.
It's not that easy... foxy's is 3 levels ahead of any other rain i've ever played
Ya I am sure it is really great, but I think just based on the tools the MU favors Smoke. It don't mean to make the impression that Smoke completely dominates, 4-6 is still winnable.
- Rain does not have more range- the SS covers more distance than any of Rain's normals. He does do more damage, as you mentioned.
If you wanna risk escaping with d3 thats 100% your risk.
you should answer how he beats jax and kang, elaborate if you will.
