God Confirm
We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
not blind enough to know you wouldn't stop asking for buffs at that
not blind enough to know you wouldn't stop asking for buffs at that
If I wanted to play a top 5 character, I would play A-List, not Fisticuffs Cage and Balanced Kenshi as I do.
he is viable. He only loooks subpar when compared to his top 3 counterpart.
After one year playing him, i don't think he is tournament viable. His tools are surpassed by too many characters.
So what makes him viable then?
Mmm don't need another cage variation being good. I personally think their need too be 3 variations that are Skullgirls type of balanced. Not mkx balanced with 2 super good variations and 1 garbage my 2 cents
Add me I'm trying learn Kung jinn ancestral I like the potential in his game but I'm struggling Ik his 221, 111, b21, b14 are safe on block reloads though Kappa
So because A-List is godlike and Stunt double is good, Fisticuffs does not deserve to live? Really? What kind of logic is that?
Changes I would make to fisticuffs
Some good ideas here!
Man...xD
Lol he gets a 3-4 damage buff but 17% a bit much lol
I also think speedbag + on block would be a problem.
You can't d4 on block and run in after b121212.. B121212 is +1 (in my changes) so his d4 is (11f) so that is a 9 frame gap Ik that is not guaranteed. And even if they still block the d4 after your b121212 you are now -6 instead of +1 so you doing a -6 move into a short run into b1 (11f) is a huge gap to get Full combo punished. You'd have to do d4xx cancel to be -7 so your safe. These changes will diffently not break fisticuffs let alone even make it on A-List level it would be worse than stunt double barely. It's enough to make the variation viable and have options that only a cage player that is thinking can destroy people easily. But even if the cage player is saucy with his reads and etc. he still not braindead he will still have to think 2 moves ahead of the opp to win. That's why these changes are GOOD changes. The only thing that would break this variation is if his cancel recovery went from 40f to 15-20f recovery. Tbh
Flame Fist Liu Kang exDD1 move has 19f recovery (34f the regular one), and 2in1 cancelable...just saying
We could make fistbump like 25f recovery.Flame Fist Liu Kang exDD1 move has 19 recovery...just saying
Yep!
You dont block low against jc. If they block low you go for f24 = profit.
Now I can understand that situation of sequences. But they are +4 so they can armor after the green balls. It happens. They can armor inbetween the d4, and green balls? I do think they are true block strings. I said the start up frames for both options showing they can be fuzzied, but barely. Mostly you'll be reacting to the animation of either move. And I think the F34 is -5 and F344 is -6 respectively. So the F3 option is out unless you have meter to F3, green balls. So theirs still a meta after +1 speed bag. This speed bag isn't like leatherface +2 with pushback oH bop lol. With this +1 the opp can armor any option you do after, or even beat out you F2 option with a quick 7-11f start up mid. So you have take that into account also. The only option is do I do this mixup or do my F3.. Or block and start my coumterpicking game. That's why +1 is the frame advantage I chose. Especially because if you stop it at let's say 4 hit you are -1 so you can play a whole better meta with staggers. But I think making the F3 cancel safe along with F3, green balls a good improvement of is he going to do green balls or cancel? Should I press a button to blow up the cancel or block the green balls? This variation with my changes implemented would add a balanced yet character that requires a perfect thought of what you want to do 2-3 steps ahead. Which I think every variation should be like. Instead of autopilot or dumbed down offense. And in a way the b1 staggers with my changes would be considered a rekka because you can delay it or keep going with out making them safer of course.You dont block low against jc. If they block low you go for f24 = profit.
If you think they might block low you can use ex balls after d4. If you dont overuse it they will %100 release block after d4 and will be opened up for more b12 fun. if they take d4 and block exballs or block both, you are +4 .You can f34 if you think they will move. You are -1(not sure) if they block f34. If they make one wrong guess in this sequence jc is on top of them doing b121212121. and if they guess everything correct then jc is -1.
A-List is limited by stamina, SD is limited by clones and clone cooldown, Fisticuffs is limited by - frames of speedbag. This is why fisticuffs shouldnt be + after speedbag. And speedbag buffs wouldnt solve his footsie game problem. Which is, he doesnt have a footsie game
What do you mean the option to armor doesn't matter? It's a option the cage player has to respect just like shinnok hellsparks which are +14 but can still be armored. F34 is -3 ok so it's the end of cage turn still either way. Because his fastest move I think is 7 frames which because they're -3 already it makes their d3 come out in 10f instead so a 7-9f mid, low, oH can beat you out of any option. Or they can block your d3 and have you at -12. You got to pick your poison on that option. Yes I do mean F244 my bad. But you got to look at the ending factor of the options you just pointed out they leave cage in a bad spot.
I see your point and I can tell you see mines I agree it won't help in some mu's but having him in people face with plus frames or plus cancels will give him a fighting chance. The Speedbag can be -3 but what options will he have but to block? I think -1 to +1 is a good frame number to where he has options and has to respect options. I think it'll be balanced. It's not like scorpion pressure with 21, 214, 1 are all plus but start off high. So that's their balance.
