Kiss the Missile
Red Messiah
If you win in MK11 you lose in general because you're playing MK11
Lol I say this in the nicest way possible. What a load of shit. Let’s be intellectually honest. There’s nothing fair about fatal blows, break away, flawless block on hit, wake up forward roll or any of the other aforementioned nonsense used to circumvent the mechanics of fighting games. Have you played other nrs titles, killer instinct, street fighter? Seriously?If you win in MK11 you’ve earned it. If you lose in MK11 you’ve earned that too. Game is as fair as any other.
I actually think it's a bit worse and goes one level deeper. To me (and to many other leading up to the game's release), it seemed as though the game was designed specifically for custom variations, but due to time/crunch, they were unable to fully implement that system and had to instead attempt to balance the game around preset variations. As a result, the custom moves were never properly balanced and the preset variations never felt fully realized either. Then they opened up customs without balancing them, and we got incomplete custom moves slapped onto a base that was haphazardly rushed and forced to fit preset variations.So, one day they change their mind and decide to allow kustoms in kompetitive. That's awesome, but the game wasn't designed to support that switch, so to make the switch with no serious adjustments seems like they kind of half-assed it.
Doesn't come across that nice at all.Lol I say this in the nicest way possible. What a load of shit.
… I don’t like it because it is unfair.Doesn't come across that nice at all.
There's a difference between not liking how a mechanic works, and whether that mechanic is fair/unfair.
Unfair implies you are and a disadvantage via a difference of power. That you have a taller mountain to climb than the other guy.… I don’t like it because it is unfair.
I've got to disagree here. There are plenty of ways to read, bait, and punish wake-up rolls. There are very few things more satisfying than making that read and punishing accordingly. If your opponent reads that you're going to press buttons and they roll and punish, that's not an issue with the game, that's just you getting punished for getting too aggressive, impatient, or greedy. I have no issue with wakeup rolls.The core mechanics of the game though are those of someone seemingly upset at the idea of losing fair and square. So we have things like universal wakeup smoke towards (sorry wake up forward roll), fatal blow pushback, and break away punishes. It's like when Sakurai gets upset when Smash is called anything other than a party game... it's almost like they consulted him. I do agree with you that I think the roster is fairly balanced compared to other fighters... the fundamental mechanics of the game are just such a slap in the face to anyone who takes fighting games seriously it's a tough pill to swallow. I've been playing it again the last 2 days and it's really hard to go from MKX to this. It's more of an exercise in patience than the fast paced chess experience of other fighters.
To me unfair would be something like Player 1 being granted more health, or meter, or always winning all trades, or something like that.… I don’t like it because it is unfair.
Bingo. I think that's a big reason why a lot of people often dislike the newest game in a franchise.It sounds like a lot of people are trying to play it like they play MKX or Street Fighter or Guilty Gear or Killer Instict, but that's not how you play MK11; you have to play MK11 as its own game on its own terms.
I’m getting my mba now and literally reading brand awareness as we speak. I could be wrong but I think brand awareness is at all time high for mk compared to where it was in 2015 with mkx. We’ve had two animated releases, a live action release, tons of pop culture references, the game is easier and more accessible than mkx. It certainly makes sense that it’s selling like cold water in hell.Game was apparently the 15th highest selling game in the US last month. Highest selling MK game to date. Doesn't happen if casuals hate the game
Bro... Noob Saibot and Erron Black can stand full screen and mash the triggers, go completely unpunished against the bulk of the cast, wait 10 seconds and do the same thing again.To me unfair would be something like Player 1 being granted more health, or meter, or always winning all trades, or something like that.
Fatal Blows have their pro's and con's when it comes to how it affects gameplay, but I consider it a fair mechanic. Most are punishable if just used raw, both players have them, and at most it only affects 1 round.
Same thing with Breakaway. At most it can only be used 2-3 times per round, and most characters have ways to counter it. Use an armor breaker, bait the breakaway and go for a D2, or find a combo that deals unbreakable damage. And both players have access to it. If you choose to go for a combo that the opponent can breakaway and punish then you can also breakaway from their combo. Also, just to make things specific, You play TW Raiden, right? He can easily deal with breakaway no problem.
MK11 has a lot more defensive options, which means when you're on offense you have a lot more choices to make, and fewer guaranteed situations. It's different than games like MKX or MK9, but I don't think that makes MK11 bad. Personally I really like MK11, but it's not for everyone.
This is my #1 concern moving forward. NRS literally set the standard for communication, hype, and showing stuff off cool stuff in the modern fighting game era via Injustice 1, MKX, and Injustice 2. Then MK11 comes along with the hypest of hype shit via the announcement trailer, invite-only event with a tournament, character trailers, etc.; but it then proceeded to IMMEDIATELY fizzle out into nothing. COVID concerns and the cracking down on crunch culture obviously caused a fuckton of issues (especially combined with the behind the scenes dealings of WB Games' upcoming death and NRS sell off), but hot damn did NRS just sorta.. vanish entirely. Then give some DLC. Then vanish. Then give some DLC. Then get a random little patch to gut Sheeva. Then vanish. Then confirm the game is done via a tweet.I think this will spell doom for NRS if they continue this watered down- no communication and barely any support for the game unless they can monetise it.
This kind of negative talk is not welcome on TYM. You can hate the game all you want, but you may not shit on other users' enjoyment of the game. Since joining TYM, all you have done is complain. Literally, I'm curious if you can show me a comment you have made that hasn't directly or indirectly been a complaint about the game.I'm really sorry you feel so emotionally attached to a game that is absolute objective excrement. Some people may find this to be subjectively fun. That doesn't take away from the fun you're having. Some people enjoy the feeling of nausea as well. I just will not entertain the notion of this being a good or well designed game. We can have differing opinions about how enjoyable it is, and I'm even happy to run a set with you to show you no hard feelings, but hardly any thought or effort was put into this mess short of making it look appealing.
I've actually received nothing but support for my comments with the exception of Marlow if you take a look. I was very careful with my choice of words not to insult or offend him. I don't participate in name calling. But if you're going to enforce an environment taken out of the REO play book, then this is not the site for me. I actually thought I was farely respectful and have said only positive things about MKX.This kind of negative talk is not welcome on TYM. You can hate the game all you want, but you may not shit on other users' enjoyment of the game. Since joining TYM, all you have done is complain. Literally, I'm curious if you can show me a comment you have made that hasn't directly or indirectly been a complaint about the game.
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but support for the game is done. Your complaints will only have one effect, and that's to annoy the members of this community who do enjoy the game. No amount of complaining is going to achieve anything whatsoever. So, you have three choices: Either you can change your attitude and try to find some enjoyment in the game or you can move on to a game you do enjoy. The third choice is to continue this nonstop shitting on our users who do enjoy the game, but that choice will lead to a permanent ban from our community. I genuinely hope you choose one of the first two.
Your tone has not been respectful. You are free to dislike the game all you want, but you may not insult our users who do like the game. But this is not an argument I'm going to have. If you can't tell the difference between respectful and disrespectful criticism of the game, then you are probably correct that this is not the community for you.I've actually received nothing but support for my comments with the exception of Marlow if take a look. I was very careful with my choice of words not to insult or offend him. I don't participate in name calling. But if you're going to enforce an environment taken out of the REO play book, then this is not the site for me. I actually thought I was farely respectful and have said only positive things about MKX.
Where did I insult him? That's not the case here sir. I do think MK 11 is bad, but I did not insult him.Your tone has not been respectful. You are free to dislike the game all you want, but you may not insult our users who do like the game. But this is not an argument I'm going to have. If you can't tell the difference between respectful and disrespectful criticism of the game, then you are probably correct that this is not the community for you.
Where did I insult him? That's not the case here sir. I do think MK 11 is bad, but I did not insult him. It's well known how PC this site is and I'm willing to play by the rules. But I didn't insult anyone.
In this instance, you are insulting their taste in the game, rather than expressing your own discontent with the game.Where did I insult him? That's not the case here sir. I do think MK 11 is bad, but I did not insult him.
In all fairness, telling someone that others enjoy the feeling of nausea is, absolutely, an insult. You're belittling the poster and his opinion, and then go on to state that your opinion, which is subjective, is superior.Some people enjoy the feeling of nausea as well. I just will not entertain the notion of this being a good or well designed game.
It's a tongue and check joke, dude. I've outline all the various nauseating problems this game has in particular. I'll be more careful in the future. I've no problem with anyone on the site. I'm sure Marlow is a super chill dude. I'm a new member. Not trying to ruffle any feathers or belittle anyone. The default position is if you enjoy the game that's great.In all fairness, telling someone that others enjoy the feeling of nausea is, absolutely, an insult. You're belittling the poster and his opinion, and then go on to state that your opinion, which is subjective, is superior.
That's different than just disagreeing.