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Not a Breakthrough, But Possibly Another Zod Glitch that Doesnt Matter

TJ Casters

Apprentice
I'm perfectly fine with the way Superman is really, but his risk/reward is all out of wack for f23. Having f23 having huge range and speed? Sure. Give it a crap ton of damage? Fine. Having it be safe? Maybe not so much. The upside is that f23 has no real mixup potential, since it can't generate an overhead mid screen. So really, the f23 string is just pressure, which superman kind of needs since his overheads are either terrible or jump ins. I'd rather they hit air heat vision so it doesn't cover the whole screen. That's the real superman power.

And for something relevant: If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but I am curious why it only works some of the time and not others.
F23 itself is not safe. The super breath makes it so.
EDIT: Never mind. My bad.
 

TJ Casters

Apprentice
so to get things straight, the "Major" glitch advertised in this thread title is one combo not working against Grundy?

good to know for future "breakthrough" threads.
No, it's that many of his moves don't work in combos against random characters. There's no visible pattern at this moment.
 

Killphil

A prop on the stage of life.
2 things: Use his low starter and combo into your force ball gun thingy OR.....mb b3 on reaction. :cool:
 
Maybe it's good certain characters can't connect B&B's w/ certain characters. Gives better matchups. doesn't marvel have that and that isn't patched or anything for tall and short characteres
 

SimSim

Norwegian Lab-work Champion
so to get things straight, the "Major" glitch advertised in this thread title is one combo not working against Grundy?

good to know for future "breakthrough" threads.
Yea it's the combination of the many "glitches" with his strings, trait and special moves. I know this might sound as a false alarm, but it does point towards problems with Zod in addition to the trait glitch.
 

Johnny2d

Xbl: Johnny2Die
I liked this combo cause its cool and does good damage but found it to land only half the time against whatever chatacters. Now I avoid this combo altogether because its inconsisntent. He's got other stuff to use in the same situation.

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Error

DF2+R2
I've noticed that sometimes his slow rifle, I've actually had it combo sometimes and miss other times on the same character.
 

Johnny2d

Xbl: Johnny2Die
The 11d2 thing is funny, the frame data is right there so we just take it. I know I did and started building strategies around it. Now I know if I'm going to build a core strategy element into my game plan I can't just look at the number, I have to test it every which way.

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Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
so to get things straight, the "Major" glitch advertised in this thread title is one combo not working against Grundy?

good to know for future "breakthrough" threads.
Maybe shouldn't have put breakthrough lol

But he's the glitchiest Dlc yet and this makes me worried about what else we haven't found yet

Can u confirm what's being fixed for him?
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
The 11d2 thing is funny, the frame data is right there so we just take it. I know I did and started building strategies around it. Now I know if I'm going to build a core strategy element into my game plan I can't just look at the number, I have to test it every which way.

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^^^^

Agreed colt this is kinda the problem I'm eluding too. We don't know what to do w what yet , he feels unfinished and we can't use Frame data yet . It's frustrating

When u see a +5 string u start getting giddy and forming your offense over it only to be punished for it
 

xInfra Deadx

Gimmick stolen by Jordan Peele
To be fair, Zod does have MB Ground Laser to get damage...but what's the damage comparison from Ground Laser to Rifle?
 

EGP Wonder_Chef

Official Quan Chi Nerf Demander™
so to get things straight, the "Major" glitch advertised in this thread title is one combo not working against Grundy?

good to know for future "breakthrough" threads.
FYI Zod has created some HUUUUGE lag in the game for me.

The worst match yet was my first match at WNF last week against a GA on Gotham Alley, the game slowed down to where it was almost unplayable.

Krayzie says that Zod mirrors do the same thing.
 

Jon Berg

Mortal
Certain combos from certain characters not working on others isn't something that's exclusive to this game. Its in basically every fighting game out there, and it's absolutely fine. Use a different combo or cancel into a different special. The trait bug and corner glitches, absolutely understandable as they are clearly bugs. The combo not linking on grundy however, while maybe not intended is not a big deal when a good chunk of the rest of the cast deals with it. Certainty isn't a priority at least.
 

BDMao88

Filthy Casual
so to get things straight, the "Major" glitch advertised in this thread title is one combo not working against Grundy?

good to know for future "breakthrough" threads.
Reminds me of NRS "major" announcements...
 

Konqrr

MK11 Kabal = MK9 Kitana
There are character specific combos in nearly every fighting game. This is just a big example of the same in Injustice.
 

FCP/EMP SCAR

Warrior
At the rate they are releasing these dlc characters, i doubt any of them are being thoroughly tested before being released....we have a new dlc being released almost every 3 to 4 weeks....doubt they even test the character enough to notice the problems they might have with certain chars, hitboxes, and stages...stop being so lazy NRS.