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gpmoney hey m8, some tips i can give: Offence, sometimes you try to hard to do damage , you leave yourself open to get comboed because you do unsafe stuff to get your opponent to back off, EX: multiple times against grundy you did unsafe wingdings and FG to get him to stop moving forward and that got you punished by a full bar cause of grundys mixup.

also you start the game with B2 to often, but thats just a nod to mix your opening up... also just 2 small tips to improve your game:
1. your b2 combo, i would advise doing the B2 mixup instead of going for dmg cause that b2 combo gives you no advantage for a followup and the combo dmg is relativly small compared to the dmg you can get with the mix up.
2. mix your zonning up, when your in escrima you use spark, in staff groundblast, but you dont use them at the same time, try to for instance do 1 or 2 sparks and groundblast cancel to groundblast to keep them on their feet and making them have a hard time advancing.

Defence wise, less MB B3, more knowing how to block certain mixups, a big part of NW game is having a really good defence cause at times you have no other option other than actually knowing how to block this kind of mixups (grundy for instance)

Other than what i mention you already do a pretty good job with NW, its just improve your mixup game ( note: against DD the J2 into MBflipkick was nice, its a nice mix up and very hard to block, so very nice job there)

Anyway keep it up youll have a very good NW if you keep with him. Nice matchs
 

gpmoney

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gpmoney hey m8, some tips i can give: Offence, sometimes you try to hard to do damage , you leave yourself open to get comboed because you do unsafe stuff to get your opponent to back off, EX: multiple times against grundy you did unsafe wingdings and FG to get him to stop moving forward and that got you punished by a full bar cause of grundys mixup.

also you start the game with B2 to often, but thats just a nod to mix your opening up... also just 2 small tips to improve your game:
1. your b2 combo, i would advise doing the B2 mixup instead of going for dmg cause that b2 combo gives you no advantage for a followup and the combo dmg is relativly small compared to the dmg you can get with the mix up.
2. mix your zonning up, when your in escrima you use spark, in staff groundblast, but you dont use them at the same time, try to for instance do 1 or 2 sparks and groundblast cancel to groundblast to keep them on their feet and making them have a hard time advancing.

Defence wise, less MB B3, more knowing how to block certain mixups, a big part of NW game is having a really good defence cause at times you have no other option other than actually knowing how to block this kind of mixups (grundy for instance)

Other than what i mention you already do a pretty good job with NW, its just improve your mixup game ( note: against DD the J2 into MBflipkick was nice, its a nice mix up and very hard to block, so very nice job there)

Anyway keep it up youll have a very good NW if you keep with him. Nice matchs
Thank you for the info bro much appreciated 14K
 

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thanks again and I get nervous whenever I have to play
oh yeah i totally get that, everyone does, i mean there are a lot of ways to play NW really, you have a pretty aggressive look at this style and thats fine, if it works and gets you the win there is no contest there... the main thing for me really is drop the B2, escrima fury, dash , fury combo... this combo leads to very few and usually the dmg is very mediocre for the work not to say that the drop chance is higher cause something just a bit of timing and you drop it... try the mix up option that will lead into another mx up oportunitty, if you dont know what im talking about let me explain.

B2,3, EF.. let them fall a tad, B2, Spark

now after spark comes the mix up: if you let spark go its a meaty and most ppl dont block
if you cancel spark you can do the following, dahs forward into a Flipkick that will cross up your opponent, you can MB it for a B3 into a J3, EF into the same B2 Mixup again..
you can Dash and Grab wish is also very nice most ppl dont see it coming.
you can do a F2,1,3 and from this string you have multiple mixups, cancel into Flipkick for yet another crossup, spark cancel Backdash to be safe, Staff cancel into groundpound for a low (MB if you get him oppenedup for a combo) or Staffspin EX into your mixup of choise be it 1, grounpound EX for low or 1 into another Staffsping MB also very nice for chip dmg and he cant get out of it, or even 1, cancel into escrima flipkick ( now the timing on this is strange compared to your normal staff to escrima cancels and your also not + so i rarely use this one )

take your pick they are all pretty great mix ups, i most often use the F2,1,3 Flipkick MB version cause i can get them into the same mix up and do it over and over again, if they get smart and start blocking i just do B2 spark dash forward and another F2,1,3 that leads into the same mix up as well. just try some of this out and see wish one you feel good using.. hope it helps

EDIT: Sajam also has this mix up in his youtube channel if my ex wasnt clear enouth, sometimes i drift a bit explaining stuff XD
 

gpmoney

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oh yeah i totally get that, everyone does, i mean there are a lot of ways to play NW really, you have a pretty aggressive look at this style and thats fine, if it works and gets you the win there is no contest there... the main thing for me really is drop the B2, escrima fury, dash , fury combo... this combo leads to very few and usually the dmg is very mediocre for the work not to say that the drop chance is higher cause something just a bit of timing and you drop it... try the mix up option that will lead into another mx up oportunitty, if you dont know what im talking about let me explain.

B2,3, EF.. let them fall a tad, B2, Spark

now after spark comes the mix up: if you let spark go its a meaty and most ppl dont block
if you cancel spark you can do the following, dahs forward into a Flipkick that will cross up your opponent, you can MB it for a B3 into a J3, EF into the same B2 Mixup again..
you can Dash and Grab wish is also very nice most ppl dont see it coming.
you can do a F2,1,3 and from this string you have multiple mixups, cancel into Flipkick for yet another crossup, spark cancel Backdash to be safe, Staff cancel into groundpound for a low (MB if you get him oppenedup for a combo) or Staffspin EX into your mixup of choise be it 1, grounpound EX for low or 1 into another Staffsping MB also very nice for chip dmg and he cant get out of it, or even 1, cancel into escrima flipkick ( now the timing on this is strange compared to your normal staff to escrima cancels and your also not + so i rarely use this one )

take your pick they are all pretty great mix ups, i most often use the F2,1,3 Flipkick MB version cause i can get them into the same mix up and do it over and over again, if they get smart and start blocking i just do B2 spark dash forward and another F2,1,3 that leads into the same mix up as well. just try some of this out and see wish one you feel good using.. hope it helps

EDIT: Sajam also has this mix up in his youtube channel if my ex wasnt clear enouth, sometimes i drift a bit explaining stuff XD
yea I don't really like the B2 3,3 fury I just do it because i get the corer carry. Im gonna start using sajams mix up, I saw it on his Chanel when he first posted it but never tried it.
 

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yea I don't really like the B2 3,3 fury I just do it because i get the corer carry. Im gonna start using sajams mix up, I saw it on his Chanel when he first posted it but never tried it.
its really great, the corner carrie can be usefull on some matchups, but i stil favor the mix up, but doesnt hurt to have it on arsenal just in case
 

Sajam

Nightwing In Retirement
So I guess Rip Torn recorded out matches from last WNF, and I didn't notice. So here's both of my matches with Godspeed.


The biggest thing about these matches:

Good use of b1 in the second game to shut down divekicks (d1 to bait it, then b1 to anti air)

I missed my b1 anti air at the end of the first life bar, and ate 40% for it in the 3rd game.

Two accidental neutral jump wing dings cost me the 3rd game, I meant to jump back and throw them both times

Got caught by lots of black magic when I shouldn't have

Got d1'd a lot through my d1 pressure, I'm not sure how this was happening

Next match:

Getting poked of d1 pressure because I don't mash hard enough

Good read on flying grayson early lost me the dumpster and probably that game. NW needs dumpster to control BA

2nd game I played the matchup a lot better

That tech at the end though? YES

3rd game: Black magic anti airing zzzzzzzzz

I controlled the drones alright, but the threat of them changes the matchup a lot

I should have switched to staff at the end instead of going in so deep with escrima.

So yeah, 2 very close sets of 2-1. Post patch Adam should be a much easier matchup for NW, so this battle won't look so uphill next time!

Bonus: Me beating Slayer with MMH because fuck Superman:

 

XxM3LLOxX

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gpmoney we already talk enough about what u need to start doing lol u need to work on your escrima play style a lot more. I know you love staff to death, but as many times we play daily you always see me do the "Sajam" combo ender which is fantastic. Work on your escrima pressure, frame traps, and specific spacing. Overall man you're getting better slowly but it's showing. I might be able to make the ranbat next week too, and also are you ping to gohan's house tonight?
 

gpmoney

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XxM3LLOxX I've been practicing the escirma pressure, Im having a hard time getting the spark cancels down and I stop throwing out the flying grayson. I have no ride to Gohans or home so I dont think I will be there :( .
 

14K

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XxM3LLOxX I've been practicing the escirma pressure, Im having a hard time getting the spark cancels down and I stop throwing out the flying grayson. I have no ride to Gohans or home so I dont think I will be there :( .
You going to a weekly anytime soon, i would love to see your progress, specially since you have been training with @XxM3LLOxX

Also the Spark cancels at first may seem a bit odd , but you really need to hold that button down untill you see him clash the escrimas toughter cause if you try to dash any sooner than that, he will ignore the comand... really need that muscle memory on point.. i for one love doing D1 into F2,1,3 mixups and since i dont use alternate controls most of the time i would get D1 EF cause of the motion... so i went to training mode and did D1 neutral F2,1,3 Countless times untill my hands really memorized that i must go neutral before doing the F2 i advise you do the same, try doing the following. D1...F2,1,3 Escrima Spark Cancel forward into the same D1 yadda yadda yadda over and over but use Foward dash back dash... this will help you get synced with the movement of waiting for the clash and then dashing
 

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gpmoney 14K

That's something that's left over from MK9, the fact that if a special is inputted and a dash is inputted before the special starts-up it will ignore the special move-input. It can be used to hitconfirm or not(input the special, see that your string is blocked and input a quick dash. Randomly inputting a series of directional inputs works as well).
 

gpmoney

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14K yea we are going to start doing weekly streams on Sundays and Bi weekly tournament on saturdays. I'll post in here whenever we stream or you can go through the archives. Last week was our 1st stream (test stream) unfortunately it was not uploaded to twitch because we didn't have it set to auto upload.
 

14K

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14K yea we are going to start doing weekly streams on Sundays and Bi weekly tournament on saturdays. I'll post in here whenever we stream or you can go through the archives. Last week was our 1st stream (test stream) unfortunately it was not uploaded to twitch because we didn't have it set to auto upload.
yah its cool, ill watch it every whatver way i can, if i dont catch the stream live ill def go to the archives...
 

XxM3LLOxX

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14K thanks for mentioning me man I appreciate it. gpmoney has been under my wing for a quite some time and he's been progressing real fast. I've been giving him most of my knowledge and advice since I been off the scene for a while lol we do play often though, in the future we should be able to record some mirror matches of us. If not like like he said u can always catch us and our team every Sunday streaming casuals of injustice, marvel, etc.
 

XxM3LLOxX

CORN WulfGangM3LLO
So I made a breakdown of the GL/NW matchup, and thought I post it here for you guys:
Sajam, I watched this a while back when u uploaded it on YouTube. This is definitely something to watch if you're not understanding the GL match up. Good stuff
 

Wasted

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Does anyone have any extensive footage of the NW/Supes matchup?

I know it sucks, but I really cannot figure out how to adapt. Lasers are too much, even with being able to check some of them with staff and avoiding with escrima spark cancels.
 

Sajam

Nightwing In Retirement
Does anyone have any extensive footage of the NW/Supes matchup?

I know it sucks, but I really cannot figure out how to adapt. Lasers are too much, even with being able to check some of them with staff and avoiding with escrima spark cancels.
The matchup is probably going to change significantly on Tuesday as long as the nerfs ring true.

If NW can punish non mb air laser on block every time with staff pound, then current footage really wouldn't be indicative of the matchup.
 
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