Match-up Discussion Nightwing Match-Up Discussion (1.06 and on)

[XxM3LLOxX]

If hes using D2 that much thats when u react and punish it. walk back and react to the D2.

 

[gpmoney]

hmmm ok, ill have to play GA more, I have no idea how to fight him. ryujin is the only GA ive ever played

 

[Blind_Falcon]

Catwomen mixups poop all over me.
What do I do?

 

[NightwingDayZero]

So I got in about 2 hours of MU experience with Blind Ducky's Raven last night. I've got some things to share with regards to that MU. I really wish my capture card weren't deaded. I'll do what I can to write some stuff up when I'm done with my HW.

 

[rpg]

Hi guys, I need some nightwing matches. I have an xbox though, all skill levels i dont really care as long as we level up. =D

Thanks.

 

[gpmoney]

Hi guys, I need some nightwing matches. I have an xbox though, all skill levels i dont really care as long as we level up. =D

Thanks.

I dont get off work till 5 hours from now but I can play then :3

 

[Jeremy KO]

Whoever said the Martian manhunter matchup is in NW's favor is a LIAR.


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[rpg]

I dont get off work till 5 hours from now but I can play then :3

ok sounds good.

 

[NightwingDayZero]

Whoever said the Martian manhunter matchup is in NW's favor is a LIAR.


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It's been made worse for NW since the buff to OH teleport's hitbox. It's still manageable.

 

[Sajam]

Whoever said the Martian manhunter matchup is in NW's favor is a LIAR.


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I felt it was until the buff to his teleport.

NW can outzone him in staff from full screen no problem, and bait teleport. He could also use ground spark dash cancels before to bait teleport and punish him, but that doesn't work because his OH teleport now has a massive hitbox for some reason. That made escrima zoning a lot worse in this MU.

 

[Rocket52]

So I got in about 2 hours of MU experience with Blind Ducky's Raven last night. I've got some things to share with regards to that MU. I really wish my capture card weren't deaded. I'll do what I can to write some stuff up when I'm done with my HW.

I wish i could afford a capture card.
Looking forward to this.. Raven either blows me up or gets blown up @_@

 

[ruff321]

I really really really need some advice on cyborg MU. I'm talking about cyborgs that throw fireballs 24/7. Tried dashing between ground fireballs but the second one always hit me. Tried jumping and cyborg jumps up and use his air fireball and now I'm back full screen.

Seriously anyone here struggling with this MU or is it just me

 

[gpmoney]

I really really really need some advice on cyborg MU. I'm talking about cyborgs that throw fireballs 24/7. Tried dashing between ground fireballs but the second one always hit me. Tried jumping and cyborg jumps up and use his air fireball and now I'm back full screen.

Seriously anyone here struggling with this MU or is it just me

this is one of NW worst match ups. cyborgs TK/IA fireballs recover faster than you can move. you have to play this like a raven match up. once you get in keep him locked down. I have yet to beat a good cyborg

 

[BigMilk]

hmmm ok, ill have to play GA more, I have no idea how to fight him. ryujin is the only GA ive ever played

Sorry for the late response but NW outzones GA in both stances. If he blocks ground blast anticipate a jump or dash forward because he cannot shoot an arrow. I play this MU mainly in staff. It forces him to approach you. if you read a dash you can punish with s1 buffered ground blast combo. defend against jumps w j2 or j3. d1~arrow can be poked out of. GA arrow cancel shenanigans can mostly be punished by mb b3. if you more comfortable in escrima ground spark works well in controlling space. Wingdings & Flying Grayson both work well vs Savage Blast. Preemptive escrima j3 or dash under work well vs his j3. Staff spin setups don't work as well since his wakeups move either direction however b2 ground spark setups work well. Get him cornered then game over!!

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

Sorry for the late response but NW outzones GA in both stances. If he blocks ground blast anticipate a jump or dash forward because he cannot shoot an arrow. I play this MU mainly in staff. It forces him to approach you. if you read a dash you can punish with s1 buffered ground blast combo. defend against jumps w j2 or j3. d1~arrow can be poked out of. GA arrow cancel shenanigans can mostly be punished by mb b3. if you more comfortable in escrima ground spark works well in controlling space. Wingdings & Flying Grayson both work well vs Savage Blast. Preemptive escrima j3 or dash under work well vs his j3. Staff spin setups don't work as well since his wakeups move either direction however b2 ground spark setups work well. Get him cornered then game over!!

yeah normally i dont do much oki setups on GA his wake ups will get him outta most nightwing set ups EXCEPT the hot sauce set up, for the most part. also my set up w 2xxdb3 will work, but only to put u both at neutral, unless your in the corner. its definitely not a hard match up, just have to play it smart.

 

[Sajam]

Yeah, NW can do a semi-option select with flip kick on lots of characters, GA being one of them.

Certain character have no wakeups that won't lose to flip kick if you time it right. I found out about it against GA though, and that's one of NW's strengths in that MU. When he gets a knockdown he can make GA respect his options.

 

[TigerBombs]

Listen to BigMilk , he knows the matchup.

 

[BigMilk]

Can we talk about the KF MU. Just would like to generate all the MU based information, it's one of the MUs I'm obsessed with lol

 

[gpmoney]

Sorry for the late response but NW outzones GA in both stances. If he blocks ground blast anticipate a jump or dash forward because he cannot shoot an arrow. I play this MU mainly in staff. It forces him to approach you. if you read a dash you can punish with s1 buffered ground blast combo. defend against jumps w j2 or j3. d1~arrow can be poked out of. GA arrow cancel shenanigans can mostly be punished by mb b3. if you more comfortable in escrima ground spark works well in controlling space. Wingdings & Flying Grayson both work well vs Savage Blast. Preemptive escrima j3 or dash under work well vs his j3. Staff spin setups don't work as well since his wakeups move either direction however b2 ground spark setups work well. Get him cornered then game over!!

Thanks for the Info, I havnt played igau or been on tym in forever.

 

[gpmoney]

Can anyone help me with the BA matchup? I need to continuasly play against him

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Can we talk about the KF MU. Just would like to generate all the MU based information, it's one of the MUs I'm obsessed with lol

I normally go for a delayed JB2 or MBF3 to stop slide happy KF's. The better KF players don't slide so obnoxiously, so it's just good to check how they react to getting knocked down. Studying that will unveil what happens in this match, especially during the clutch.
J3 in Escrima beats her dash, I try avoiding raw flip kicking, her hurt box is small and she can easily punish it into a vortex.

When KF freezes you, I block low after; it's easier to react to the F3 and go into standing block.

KF has all the tools to nullify NW's wake ups...so this isn't a match up I want to be a hero and wake up to get punish for free.

I feel more comfortable playing this match up in staff to keep her out of range...but gotta be mindful of that parry, being greedy with those D1's can kill you.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

Can anyone help me with the BA matchup? I need to continuasly play against him

Wingdings fuck him up with the correct spacing, I wingding BA out of dive kick so much its not even funny. Full screen i suggest escrima ground spark spam, watch for random black magic checks tho. learn BAs basic mix ups and learn to fight against them. Its definitely not a winning match up, but it doesnt have to be a losing one either, paitence is key. I havent played IGAU in awhile due to not having XBL so i cant really tell u much more.

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Wingdings fuck him up with the correct spacing, I wingding BA out of dive kick so much its not even funny. Full screen i suggest escrima ground spark spam, watch for random black magic checks tho. learn BAs basic mix ups and learn to fight against them. Its definitely not a winning match up, but it doesnt have to be a losing one either, paitence is key. I havent played IGAU in awhile due to not having XBL so i cant really tell u much more.

This.

there shouldn't be a reason why BA should bully Nightwing with divekick. Nightwing has all the tools to interrupt.

Black Adam's D1 is really could and can lead to great pressure, especially if trait is on.
Be ready to tech any throws after D1.
Most Black Adam's I see play go for that cross up J2, that can be blocked.
Like Pryce said, be patient. NW can get to Black Adam, but if you're too eager you will eat 40% and more from a BA punish.

The main thing I want in this match up is to get BA in the corner, Nightwing can suffocate BA free if you know how your BA opponent reacts to pressure.

Watch out for those magic hands lol.

 

[gpmoney]

Wingdings fuck him up with the correct spacing, I wingding BA out of dive kick so much its not even funny. Full screen i suggest escrima ground spark spam, watch for random black magic checks tho. learn BAs basic mix ups and learn to fight against them. Its definitely not a winning match up, but it doesnt have to be a losing one either, paitence is key. I havent played IGAU in awhile due to not having XBL so i cant really tell u much more.

I was getting frame trapped to all hell. I didn't know when to back dash. Ill play it like the gl match up

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Has anyone played SaltFace's HQ? The zoning is very hard to get by in this match up, any advice? HQ has a good nuetral game just as her zoning beats NW up.