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Tech New Sub-Zero Corner Trap - The Shoryuken Prison

ManjoumeThunder

ManjoumeThunder

Just a mark
The video's already down, and I'll guess that all of the Sub Zero 101 vids are as well. At this point, I knew ahead of time to download them, for reference for Sub game. Such is the fate for limited edition videos.
 
Killphil

Killphil

A prop on the stage of life.
So the videos are good for what...about half a day? Sleep time included I had like a whole 3 hours to watch them...goddammit I don't even main sub but the first 2 were enjoyable.
 
Tom Brady

Tom Brady

Champion
i already said that i am RE-DOING THEM!! in better quality and with a human to show better examples. this is why they were taken down.

I rushed them up to show just how bad these set ups were, especially "shoryukens prison".

there is no way that i believe that neither detroit nor reo were not smart enough to do a normal shadow kick as a wake up attack, or get up and throw a projectile, or NJK at peak height, etc.. too many ways out of this. totally wrong information with a setup that is way too easy to get out of. this set up is not even remotely useful.
 
Chuckychuck

Chuckychuck

Warrior
Killphil said:
So the videos are good for what...about half a day? Sleep time included I had like a whole 3 hours to watch them...goddammit I don't even main sub but the first 2 were enjoyable.
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Chill out they are his videos to begin with. Ask someone who saw them if you want the info.
 
Chuckychuck

Chuckychuck

Warrior
Killphil said:
Why post them at all? If you want the vids on the front page of tym then don't take them down ffs. Its not a hard concept. He clearly said he wanted players to KNOW stuff. Now he pulls this stunt AGAIN...I'm not understanding his logic. You can tell me whatever you want about them being his videos..I don't care..he's placed himself as the world authority on subzero and when he pulls stuff like this it really makes me wonder what the point was. Why take the time to record and make the videos if you're just going to take them down?
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Did you even read the post right above mine and below yours?
 
salvificblood

salvificblood

Worst Sub-Zero Ever
Killphil said:
Why post them at all? If you want the vids on the front page of tym then don't take them down ffs. Its not a hard concept. He clearly said he wanted players to KNOW stuff. Now he pulls this stunt AGAIN...I'm not understanding his logic. You can tell me whatever you want about them being his videos..I don't care..he's placed himself as the world authority on subzero and when he pulls stuff like this it really makes me wonder what the point was. Why take the time to record and make the videos if you're just going to take them down?
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He's making them again in better quality with better examples of what he's talking about in the videos. Will you read the posts please?
 
ManjoumeThunder

ManjoumeThunder

Just a mark
Tom Brady said:
i already said that i am RE-DOING THEM!! in better quality and with a human to show better examples. this is why they were taken down.

I rushed them up to show just how bad these set ups were, especially "shoryukens prison".

there is no way that i believe that neither detroit nor reo were not smart enough to do a normal shadow kick as a wake up attack, or get up and throw a projectile, or NJK at peak height, etc.. too many ways out of this. totally wrong information with a setup that is way too easy to get out of. this set up is not even remotely useful.
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Yeah, sorry about that.I meant that I decided to download them (early morning) just in case they'd get taken down (didn't know if they'd be remade), but since you're remaking it, all the better, and I don't need to less quality ones.
 
xQUANTUMx

xQUANTUMx

Twitter: @xxQUANTUM
Tom Brady said:
i already said that i am RE-DOING THEM!! in better quality and with a human to show better examples. this is why they were taken down.

I rushed them up to show just how bad these set ups were, especially "shoryukens prison".

there is no way that i believe that neither detroit nor reo were not smart enough to do a normal shadow kick as a wake up attack, or get up and throw a projectile, or NJK at peak height, etc.. too many ways out of this. totally wrong information with a setup that is way too easy to get out of. this set up is not even remotely useful.
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Sent you a PM already.... I maintain what i said.


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M_TRICKZz

M_TRICKZz

Mortal
Tom Brady said:
i already said that i am RE-DOING THEM!! in better quality and with a human to show better examples. this is why they were taken down.

I rushed them up to show just how bad these set ups were, especially "shoryukens prison".

there is no way that i believe that neither detroit nor reo were not smart enough to do a normal shadow kick as a wake up attack, or get up and throw a projectile, or NJK at peak height, etc.. too many ways out of this. totally wrong information with a setup that is way too easy to get out of. this set up is not even remotely useful.
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This is exactly what I was thinking when I first saw this vid because I tried this before but sadly realized that all you have to do is throw a projectile and he'll get hit and just simply wake up! Can't believe you guys won't consider hitting him before the puddle come's out, kabals ground GB beats this ya know!

I have a better idea.....Back shortly!
 
Tom Brady

Tom Brady

Champion

okok.. i know last night i said i'm not logging in anymore but there are 2 last posts i need to make. this being 1 of 2..


1. all of you who thought this tech was good should be ashamed. the players who made this vid either 100% failed to test it in any way, or knew it was really incorrect info and tried to pass it off as legit tech to troll sub-zero players. there is no other explanation..

2. Next time you are going to post anything on sub-zero please consult me. This is a set up i did waaaaaaaaay back in feb 2011 during the week i was in chi to test and Konqrr can vouch for this. I had several set ups similar to this as well as the one in this vid. This is why the clone disappears when you ex ground freeze. this is why you should consult me, it avoids things like you posting beta set ups of mine and naming it "shoryukens pison" as if its "a new discovery brought to mine and detroit's attention".

3. the rest of the REO sub video series is also incorrect. an example is in the "deep jump kick after 212~clone" vid where it is not mentioned that you actually CAN anti-air it with a standing jab or D+1 and that the higher hitting jump kick is needed for that which is why i dont always use the deep jump kick, i use both high and deep versions based on my read/the character/the meter situation. i have a video of this up as well. REO told me that he doesnt see me use deep jump in kick but thats only because most of the characters he uses AA with a standing jab, D+1, iagb, etc... the only time you can for sure get a deep jump kick is when you know the opponent will block, otherwise they have several ways you punish you. REO, not being an expert on sub-zero didnt realize that you need both deep and high jump in kick attacks for this set up. the next issue is that you also did not show other ways that certain characters can stop and jump in after 212~clone such as reptile's ex full charge force ball, sub-zero's ice clone etc. this is why I should have been consulted before one of my set ups was put on video. Because it is a set up of mine and I always like to be thorough in my testing, I went into the lab on it when i came up with it and I know all its ins and outs after using this set up for almost 10 months in high level play.

overall, the entire video series of sub that was posted last week is in large part incorrect info and very gimmicky. biggest collection of incorrect info by a top player that i have ever seen. the only info that was correct, but had better things to it, was the (2)1 video.

this is not tying to blow someone up, only correct very bad info. if there are people out there who are upset at me for correcting the info and pointing this out to those who made the videos and watched the videos, then I apologise.
 
EGP Wonder_Chef

EGP Wonder_Chef

Official Quan Chi Nerf Demander™
Tom Brady said:

okok.. i know last night i said i'm not logging in anymore but there are 2 last posts i need to make. this being 1 of 2..


1. all of you who thought this tech was good should be ashamed. the players who made this vid either 100% failed to test it in any way, or knew it was really incorrect info and tried to pass it off as legit tech to troll sub-zero players. there is no other explanation..

2. Next time you are going to post anything on sub-zero please consult me. This is a set up i did waaaaaaaaay back in feb 2011 during the week i was in chi to test and Konqrr can vouch for this. I had several set ups similar to this as well as the one in this vid. This is why the clone disappears when you ex ground freeze. posting beta set ups of mine and naming it "shoryukens pison" was interesting though.

3. the rest of the REO sub video series is also incorrect especially the "deep jump kick after 212~clone" vid where it is not mentioned that you actually CAN anti-air it with a standing jab or D+1 and that the higher hitting jump kick is needed for that which is why i dont always use the deep jump kick, i use both high and deep versions based on my read/the character/the meter situation. i have a video of this up as well. the next issue is that you also did not show other ways that certain characters can stop and jump in after 212~clone such as reptile's ex full charge force ball, sub-zero's ice clone etc.

overall, the entire video series of sub that was posted last week is in large part incorrect info and very gimmicky. biggest collection of incorrect info by a top player that i have ever seen. the only info that was correct but had better things to it was the (2)1 video.


this is not tying to blow someone up, only correct very bad info. if there are people out there who are upset at me for correcting the info and pointing this out to these who made the videos, then I apologise and assure you that I will not offend you again by correcting any more incorrect information.
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I knew you were better than REO.
 
Juggs

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Tom Brady said:

okok.. i know last night i said i'm not logging in anymore but there are 2 last posts i need to make. this being 1 of 2..


1. all of you who thought this tech was good should be ashamed. the players who made this vid either 100% failed to test it in any way, or knew it was really incorrect info and tried to pass it off as legit tech to troll sub-zero players. there is no other explanation..

2. Next time you are going to post anything on sub-zero please consult me. This is a set up i did waaaaaaaaay back in feb 2011 during the week i was in chi to test and Konqrr can vouch for this. I had several set ups similar to this as well as the one in this vid. This is why the clone disappears when you ex ground freeze. posting beta set ups of mine and naming it "shoryukens pison" was interesting though.

3. the rest of the REO sub video series is also incorrect especially the "deep jump kick after 212~clone" vid where it is not mentioned that you actually CAN anti-air it with a standing jab or D+1 and that the higher hitting jump kick is needed for that which is why i dont always use the deep jump kick, i use both high and deep versions based on my read/the character/the meter situation. i have a video of this up as well. the next issue is that you also did not show other ways that certain characters can stop and jump in after 212~clone such as reptile's ex full charge force ball, sub-zero's ice clone etc.

overall, the entire video series of sub that was posted last week is in large part incorrect info and very gimmicky. biggest collection of incorrect info by a top player that i have ever seen. the only info that was correct but had better things to it was the (2)1 video.


this is not tying to blow someone up, only correct very bad info. if there are people out there who are upset at me for correcting the info and pointing this out to these who made the videos, then I apologise and assure you that I will not offend you again by correcting any more incorrect information.
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Wow REO exposed.
 
UsedForGlue

UsedForGlue

"Strength isn't everything"
Tom Brady said:

okok.. i know last night i said i'm not logging in anymore but there are 2 last posts i need to make. this being 1 of 2..


1. all of you who thought this tech was good should be ashamed. the players who made this vid either 100% failed to test it in any way, or knew it was really incorrect info and tried to pass it off as legit tech to troll sub-zero players. there is no other explanation..

2. Next time you are going to post anything on sub-zero please consult me. This is a set up i did waaaaaaaaay back in feb 2011 during the week i was in chi to test and Konqrr can vouch for this. I had several set ups similar to this as well as the one in this vid. This is why the clone disappears when you ex ground freeze. this is why you should consult me, it avoids things like you posting beta set ups of mine and naming it "shoryukens pison" as if its "a new discovery brought to mine and detroit's attention".

3. the rest of the REO sub video series is also incorrect. an example is in the "deep jump kick after 212~clone" vid where it is not mentioned that you actually CAN anti-air it with a standing jab or D+1 and that the higher hitting jump kick is needed for that which is why i dont always use the deep jump kick, i use both high and deep versions based on my read/the character/the meter situation. i have a video of this up as well. REO told me that he doesnt see me use deep jump in kick but thats only because most of the characters he uses AA with a standing jab, D+1, iagb, etc... the only time you can for sure get a deep jump kick is when you know the opponent will block, otherwise they have several ways you punish you. REO, not being an expert on sub-zero didnt realize that you need both deep and high jump in kick attacks for this set up. the next issue is that you also did not show other ways that certain characters can stop and jump in after 212~clone such as reptile's ex full charge force ball, sub-zero's ice clone etc. this is why I should have been consulted before one of my set ups was put on video. Because it is a set up of mine and I always like to be thorough in my testing, I went into the lab on it when i came up with it and I know all its ins and outs after using this set up for almost 10 months in high level play.

overall, the entire video series of sub that was posted last week is in large part incorrect info and very gimmicky. biggest collection of incorrect info by a top player that i have ever seen. the only info that was correct, but had better things to it, was the (2)1 video.

this is not tying to blow someone up, only correct very bad info. if there are people out there who are upset at me for correcting the info and pointing this out to those who made the videos and watched the videos, then I apologise.
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I wonder when people will actually take Tom's advice for Sub seriously?

That has to be the biggest anti tech burn I have ever seen.
 
UsedForGlue

UsedForGlue

"Strength isn't everything"
Zer0Hundr3d said:
"Raiden game changing new tech" = 1212 EN Lightning on block is the new Rune Trap

30 seconds later everyone is going: You know you could just duck that right?And everyone was blowing it up and the guy who posted it was never seen again on the face of earth
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Damm
 
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