Nerfs. In november patch we have them, but that is not enough

Discussion in 'Injustice 2' started by Zhidoreptiloid, Nov 13, 2017.

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Who must be nerfed?

  1. Black Adam

    56 vote(s)
    33.7%
  2. Supergirl

    128 vote(s)
    77.1%
  3. Firestorm

    30 vote(s)
    18.1%
  4. Superman

    33 vote(s)
    19.9%
  5. The flash

    41 vote(s)
    24.7%
  6. Brainiac

    16 vote(s)
    9.6%
  7. Catwoman

    69 vote(s)
    41.6%
  8. Dr Fate

    28 vote(s)
    16.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
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  1. THTB

    THTB #IDoMachines

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    ...I'm going back to the Discord lmao.
     
    #226
  2. Solid

    Solid The Longbow Hunter.

    Who "must" be nerfed. Lol. "MUST". Came back after a few months and I have immediate regret. Guess things will never change around here.
     
    #227
  3. supernumian

    supernumian Triborg Enthusiast

    I think that The Flash needs some adjustment.
    He do:
    - too much damage with meter and trait
    - has some damaging unclashable combo in the corner
    - extremely hard to punish when constantly put you in a 50/50 situation
    - built a ton of meter with every special
     
    #228
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  4. Moms4lif3

    Moms4lif3 Bruh.

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    I never had a problem with fate, yes he does well in some MUs but if that's a reason to nerf, no character will be good. Balancing is not about making everything a 5-5.
     
    #229
  5. Moms4lif3

    Moms4lif3 Bruh.

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    Flash is mostly fine, he needs the damage and 50/50 imo, although I don't really like the concept of 50/50s altogether.
    Maybe make his lightning kick a little easier to punish, it's annoying that people don't really need to hit confirm it online.
     
    #230
  6. TopTierBarry

    TopTierBarry Top tier player. Free'd up Knicks live on TYM
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    Flash needs buffs tho
     
    #231
  7. Moms4lif3

    Moms4lif3 Bruh.

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    I think a quick plus on block projectile would be fair, to make up for his lack of neutral game of course
     
    #232
  8. TopTierBarry

    TopTierBarry Top tier player. Free'd up Knicks live on TYM
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    thank you
     
    #233
  9. Toonstrack

    Toonstrack Noob

    I think if they touch of Kara this game will be a close to perfect as can get. Thats honestly the only char I have consistent problems with and I just cannot beat her no matter what
     
    #234
  10. AkioOf100

    AkioOf100 Noob

    She’s an annoying little gnat that’s just good at everything
     
    #235
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  11. Barrogh

    Barrogh Meta saltmine

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    But striving towards that is pretty much the definition of balanced 1v1 game, so...
     
    #236
  12. Moms4lif3

    Moms4lif3 Bruh.

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    So...? Having 5-5s everywhere would make the game incredibly boring. Imo every MU should be winnable if played correctly and no character should have an unfair advantage, that's what balancing a game should be about.
     
    #237
  13. Kooron Nation

    Kooron Nation Adam has no mids

    Make command grabs have a lot more whiff recovery so you can neutral jump punish Scarecrow and Bane
     
    #238
  14. foxof42

    foxof42 Thanksgiving corner game, going ham and stuffing

    As a Crow main... I 100% agree with this. You shouldn't need some crazy tech to punish a command grab. Swamp Thing's is quite punishable but he's the exception to the rule.
     
    #239
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  15. HiddenSelectCounterPick

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    It's easy to punish both of those command grabs you have to make a read when they do it lab the strings that they use it on its not a lot, they are supposed to work if you are blocking it's easy, nothing to complain about.
     
    #240
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  16. HiddenSelectCounterPick

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    I'm a cyborg main with two crappy wakeup options and a 6f very short hitbox jab it's easy to read a command grab and njk2 full combo punish no.......
     
    #241
  17. HiddenSelectCounterPick

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    Nerf away sgs hkds so she's not showing you her boots before you get up and cross you up. Also give GL an air dash.
     
    #242
  18. foxof42

    foxof42 Thanksgiving corner game, going ham and stuffing

    What if you're playing against Scarecrow as Swamp Thing? You have to commit to an attack on the way up and it leads to nothing. In fact, if it's a j1, you can come down negative on hit. B3 is also too slow to punish, and definitely not just with that character. I think all command grabs should have similar whiff recovery to normal throws so that the entire cast can consistently punish them. Just knowing what strings they tic off of - and then also making the hard read - isn't enough.
     
    #243
  19. HiddenSelectCounterPick

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    You can always pushblock if you see a familiar string that would lead to it, it's okay if it leads to nothing you're getting away from the command grab that's where footsies come into play
     
    #244
  20. TheRealOnlyGoonie

    TheRealOnlyGoonie Hey You Guys

    LBSH GUYS. SUPERGIRL IS FINE AS IS, SHE IS JUST A SUPERSOLID CHARACTER. THE REAL PROBLEM AT HAND IS THAT BITCH CATWOMAN. SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT HER ASAP. OR I FEAR WE WILL SUFFER ECT ALL OVER AGAIN EXCEPT THIS TIME IT WILL BE WITH THIS DIRTY HO. SHE IS BEYOND BROKE AND SO EASY TO PLAY ITS DUMB. THE WORST PART IS I FEEL THAT CATWOMAN PLAYERS ACTUALLY GETTING THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOOD, IN REALITY THEY ARE DOGSHIT. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE.
     
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  21. foxof42

    foxof42 Thanksgiving corner game, going ham and stuffing

    That's supposed to be used if you don't have a read on the mix. If you have a read, a *full combo punishable read*, you should be able to punish a command grab, period. It's way too safe right now and pushblocking to not deal with it is not the topic of conversation.
     
    #246
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  22. Baconlord

    Baconlord HOLD THESE BEAMS SON

  23. Dankster Morgan

    Dankster Morgan Don't let your memes be dreams

    Nerfing Bane has to be the most bullshit thing I’ve heard yet
     
    #248
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  24. AkioOf100

    AkioOf100 Noob

    If you can't punish whiffed command throws consistently when you're basically reading a 50/50 on a normal or a command grab, both leading into huge damage, that's an issue.
     
    #249
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  25. Barrogh

    Barrogh Meta saltmine

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    How can a tightest possible matchup be boring? If it's boring, then it's not balance that is at fault.

    Then we also have to make other characters' openers about 20 frames more negative and occasionally unsafe on hit if multi-layered, amirite? You know, for consistency. And while we are at it, give Bane some means in neutral because this change only leaves him with d1 for that. Scarecrow and Swampy at least have something there.

    Your main is an issue. Command throws that deal less damage than normal throws while whiffing against some standing strings for no reason are not.
     
    #250
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2017

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