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My Personal Opinion of Killer Frost w/ MU Chart

Cabronium

Cabronium

Stream monster: Qperg.
Breakin Wordzz said:
first who is Myles? second, i thought the only reason kf slide was to A) get a lucky slide and hope to magically catch people pressing buttons. B) to put people is a guessing game where as the kf player either does a mb parry into a 50 OR d1 slide or something. Ares b1 is longer than any of kf's normals meaning he can out space her.
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So ares beats frost? She can backdash after slide
 
Vak Phoenix

Vak Phoenix

Warrior
Breakin Wordzz said:
first who is Myles? second, i thought the only reason kf slide was to A) get a lucky slide and hope to magically catch people pressing buttons. B) to put people is a guessing game where as the kf player either does a mb parry into a 50 OR d1 slide or something. Ares b1 is longer than any of kf's normals meaning he can out space her.
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are you really that butt hurt about losing to Killer Frost, all the time. look instead of telling people to drop her... which is a smart move from you cause you cant beat her, maybe you should pick her up, or learn the match up... because there is no such thing as 50 after a MB Parry, unless of course you mean the 50% combo.
 
KillaGthug4Life

KillaGthug4Life

Believe in Magic yet? Let us Dance
I definitely agree with just about everything you have here, very balanced. I'm curious though, what is it that Frost does/ can do to make the Aquaman matchup 6-4, and how does she blow up Doomsday? And despite anything anyone says... the Zatanna matchup up is 5.5-4.5 favor Frost, we just have to work very hard to mess with Frost.
 
Vak Phoenix

Vak Phoenix

Warrior
KillaGthug4Life said:
I definitely agree with just about everything you have here, very balanced. I'm curious though, what is it that Frost does/ can do to make the Aquaman matchup 6-4, and how does she blow up Doomsday? And despite anything anyone says... the Zatanna matchup up is 5.5-4.5 favor Frost, we just have to work very hard to mess with Frost.
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it is truly hard for AM, to get around her. His from the deep is punished with an iceberg. daggers tricky to jump over cause of its hitbox. her being able to parry AM's god like B3. Her low airdash sets aquaman off. Her 6 frame 1. And as for doomsday, Parry sets him out when he charges into you. D1 earthshake, parryable. Up venom punishable with 1. Missed teleport can be punished with a slide and overhead. the best part about frost vs dd is when he gets his body condom, you can still parry him, and waste your meter to wait until his trait expires and go for a vortex or whatever you'd like.
 
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Eldriken

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KillaGthug4Life said:
I definitely agree with just about everything you have here, very balanced. I'm curious though, what is it that Frost does/ can do to make the Aquaman matchup 6-4, and how does she blow up Doomsday? And despite anything anyone says... the Zatanna matchup up is 5.5-4.5 favor Frost, we just have to work very hard to mess with Frost.
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Read my posts (and various others) to see exactly why she blows up Doomsday.
 
Breakin Wordzz

Breakin Wordzz

Best Rengar NA, also ares of world
Vak Phoenix said:
are you really that butt hurt about losing to Killer Frost, all the time. look instead of telling people to drop her... which is a smart move from you cause you cant beat her, maybe you should pick her up, or learn the match up... because there is no such thing as 50 after a MB Parry, unless of course you mean the 50% combo.
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i have never lost to a kf in my life.
 
xKhaoTik

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
Breakin Wordzz said:
why
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Yes, its obvious Ares gets a d1 check because of the range and its a low, but its also a double-edged sword in this MU. D1 into anything from Ares get interuupted by a Full combo by KF. D1 by itself is punishable as well. No KF is gonna parry after slide in this MU since we are gonna scout out the d1. Grab would be the best bet, but even then, mbf3 beats it.
 
Immortal Kombat

Immortal Kombat

almost moderate success
I think DDvsKF is 6-4 usually. It honestly depends on how well the KF parrys and blocks ES. Cant believe no ones mentioned how she blows up our 3,3 string free. Thats takes away so much of DD meta. I usually pick my spot and shoulder at her and punish the parry. Its pretty much a conditioning matchup, but remember body
splash is safe on her if you come in traited up. Turtle the match...still her advantage though.
Dd's worst IMO
 
Justice

Justice

Warrior
xKhaoTik said:
Yea why not? It'll stop you from jumping right? And if you wanna keep jumping, that's free damage for me. If you saw CW this past weekend, you would've seen the Multiple MBF3s I used for AAs.

D2 is a good AA too but it doesn't work on CWs J2. MBF3 destroys it.
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I went in the lab after this and went ham with KFs MB F3 (and B3 for the lulz). There is a "sweet spot" where J2 will hit and not get blown up but it's soooo frame sensitive that it's not even close to the realm of viable. Out of intellectual curiosity, how much damage can you get from a f3 or a b3 starter?
 
Sultan

Sultan

Kitana, Scorpion
Justice said:
I went in the lab after this and went ham with KFs MB F3 (and B3 for the lulz). There is a "sweet spot" where J2 will hit and not get blown up but it's soooo frame sensitive that it's not even close to the realm of viable. Out of intellectual curiosity, how much damage can you get from a f3 or a b3 starter?
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f3: 40% meterless, 45%+ with meter, high 50%'/low 60%s with trait.
b3: add 5% to the above
 
xKhaoTik

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
ustice said:
I went in the lab after this and went ham with KFs MB F3 (and B3 for the lulz). There is a "sweet spot" where J2 will hit and not get blown up but it's soooo frame sensitive that it's not even close to the realm of viable. Out of intellectual curiosity, how much damage can you get from a f3 or a b3 starter?
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F3 gets around 40% for a metered vortex. B3 gets around 46% KFs b3 is such a bill tho lol
 
Breakin Wordzz

Breakin Wordzz

Best Rengar NA, also ares of world
xKhaoTik said:
Yes, its obvious Ares gets a d1 check because of the range and its a low, but its also a double-edged sword in this MU. D1 into anything from Ares get interuupted by a Full combo by KF. D1 by itself is punishable as well. No KF is gonna parry after slide in this MU since we are gonna scout out the d1. Grab would be the best bet, but even then, mbf3 beats it.
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i thought ares d1 is -4 and d1 gs blows up d1s and d1 MB DE is uninteruptable. ever play ares before?
 
Pan1cMode

Pan1cMode

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Breakin Wordzz said:
i thought ares d1 is -4 and d1 gs blows up d1s and d1 MB DE is uninteruptable. ever play ares before?
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No. Just no.

After 1 blocked d1 KF gets a free d1 check. d1 gs is easily see able and jump able on reaction. Not to mention it doesn't combo if the d1 hits. Feel free to waste your meter on a point black -3 fireball cause you'll be in the exact same situation as if we'd blocked the d1 except with a bar less.
 
xKhaoTik

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
Breakin Wordzz said:
i thought ares d1 is -4 and d1 gs blows up d1s and d1 MB DE is uninteruptable. ever play ares before?
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D1 GS = D2. D1 MB DE = slide. D1 is not the punish for your d1 stuff. And yes, Mr. Aquaman is in my scene so I'm very familiar with Ares.


The more you talk, the more you show you know nothing about frost or the MU. So the real question is, have YOU ever played frost?


If you're going to come at me, please come correct. If not, I'm just going to make you look more of an idiot than you already are.
 
Breakin Wordzz

Breakin Wordzz

Best Rengar NA, also ares of world
xKhaoTik said:
D1 GS = D2. D1 MB DE = slide. D1 is not the punish for your d1 stuff. And yes, Mr. Aquaman is in my scene so I'm very familiar with Ares.


The more you talk, the more you show you know nothing about frost or the MU. So the real question is, have YOU ever played frost?


If you're going to come at me, please come correct. If not, I'm just going to make you look more of an idiot than you already are.
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u said it was interuptable after EVERYTHING i gave you to scenarios that counter your argument its called a rebuttal. lets play again. d2=MB gs=40%. and d1 mb DE its plus 4 so im not sure if you want to slide there. i gave you examples that counter people that just interrupt everything after d1 and then u say that u will react to what i do. so you countered yourself by now saying you wont poke after ares d1. also you were wrong about a d1 being punishable again so i dont know how im the idiot....
 
xKhaoTik

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
Breakin Wordzz said:
u said it was interuptable after EVERYTHING i gave you to scenarios that counter your argument its called a rebuttal. lets play again. d2=MB gs=40%. and d1 mb DE its plus 4 so im not sure if you want to slide there. i gave you examples that counter people that just interrupt everything after d1 and then u say that u will react to what i do. so you countered yourself by now saying you wont poke after ares d1. also you were wrong about a d1 being punishable again so i dont know how im the idiot....
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Shut up.

If you do D1 into ANYTHING, KF beats it. D1~GS will get interrupted by d2 or she can simply jump. D1~MB DE will get interrupted by slide or MBF3. D1~MBF3 gets interrupted by MBF3 or parry. D1~Trait gets interrupted by ANYTHING but her main punish is 111.

What else are you gonna do after D1?


I believe I'm winning this game and you're making yourself look even more dumb. Please continue if you want. I'm kinda having fun.
 
Breakin Wordzz

Breakin Wordzz

Best Rengar NA, also ares of world
xKhaoTik said:
Shut up.

If you do D1 into ANYTHING, KF beats it. D1~GS will get interrupted by d2 or she can simply jump. D1~MB DE will get interrupted by slide or MBF3. D1~MBF3 gets interrupted by MBF3 or parry. D1~Trait gets interrupted by ANYTHING but her main punish is 111.

What else are you gonna do after D1?


I believe I'm winning this game and you're making yourself look even more dumb. Please continue if you want. I'm kinda having fun.
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how does d1 de get interrupted by slide?
 
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