Match-up Discussion My Final Judgment on Sonya vs. Kitana

[Death]

This is what it boils down to -

The majority of Sonyas are saying 5-5
The majority of Kitanas are saying 6-4

It's not about which community is better than the other. We can have Sao talking all day about his brother but then on the other side you still have people like 16bit saying otherwise. One of our groups is downplaying. We need a group of matchup policemen outside this to solve the problem.

If you keep going on with this non sense I may say 6-4 kit

 

[rev0lver]

If you keep going on with this non sense I may say 6-4 kit

Nonsense? I'm calling it as it is by summarizing what's been said here and recently in other places.

 

[16 Bit]

Invincibility frames on Wake-Up. It applies even to normal specials.

He is saying the invincibility on wakeup Ass wears off as she is getting off the ground and your d+4 will float her. If you are mistiming the punish it's your fault and something you need to work on. You were trying to say "if the wakeup ass is timed correctly" Kitty gets away for free. That's not the case. If you're mistiming it the fault is on the Sonya player.

 

[YOMI DJT]

idk man. noob feels pretty easy when im sonya. if kitana beats noob, sonya DEFINITELY beats him.

kitana doesn't beat noob. thats 5-5

 

[YOMI DJT]

Read above sir and Sonya goes even with KL. cyrax I'm unsure about. I've personally done well vs every cyrax but you gotta be careful lol

sonya beats rax 4-6

 

[Death]

sonya beats rax 4-6

Mannn

 

[YOMI DJT]

If you keep going on with this non sense I may say 6-4 kit

smh 6-4 Kit

 

[YOMI DJT]

Mannn

yes but a good cyrax can make it look 5-5. 5-5 and 6-4 are too damn close its hard to tell sometimes

 

[Konqrr]

He is saying the invincibility on wakeup Ass wears off as she is getting off the ground and your d+4 will float her. If you are mistiming the punish it's your fault and something you need to work on. You were trying to say "if the wakeup ass is timed correctly" Kitty gets away for free. That's not the case. If you're mistiming it the fault is on the Sonya player.

Very true. I get hit out of my wakeup ass attempts all the time and end up having to use EX to get out.

 

[Death]

He is saying the invincibility on wakeup Ass wears off as she is getting off the ground and your d+4 will float her. If you are mistiming the punish it's your fault and something you need to work on. You were trying to say "if the wakeup ass is timed correctly" Kitty gets away for free. That's not the case. If you're mistiming it the fault is on the Sonya player.

Man get out of here. Kitana gets up for free every time

 

[YOMI DJT]

Man get out of here. Kitana gets up for free every time

nice troll lmao

 

[YOMI DJT]

sonya wins 6-4
i'll keep saying it until everyone agrees
might take a while
everyone will agree on this match sooner or later

 

[Death]

No ma

sonya wins 6-4
i'll keep saying it until everyone agrees
might take a while
everyone will agree on this match sooner or later

No man. She can just throw fans and ass out when she's cornered. It's tough to get the lead back. Not to mention the range on her strings. 5-5

 

[THTB]

No ma

No man. She can just throw fans and ass out when she's cornered. It's tough to get the lead back. Not to mention the range on her strings. 5-5

Have you guys ever tried NJP on her wakeup?

This is something nobody does...that bitch tries to go airborne? DUNK DAT HOE!

Actually, cross up JP, late DK?

 

[16 Bit]

This must be the only MU where fan zoning is still a key talking point. Everytime this MU is discussed it's like we've gone back into a time warp and it's EVO 2011.

 

[Death]

This must be the only MU where fan zoning is still a key talking point.

Yes get a life lead and throw fans and ass out when your cornered. It's tough for Sonya

 

[GamerBlake90]

Have you guys ever tried NJP on her wakeup?

This is something nobody does...that bitch tries to go airborne? DUNK DAT HOE!

Actually, cross up JP, late DK?

Enjoy eating a Fan Cutter or Fan Lift if you guess wrong.

The ass as a Wake-Up, when timed right, ensures a good escape route, but it doesn't always have to be done as a Wake-Up. As long as you correctly judge the distance at which you will land from Sonya, she can't touch you. There ARE other characters with specials that can punish it, though...Sub-Zero's slide, Raiden's superman, etc.

As for the air fans, they don't exist solely to deal damage. They control space. You can walk and duck them, but a hybrid Kitana who knows how to abuse the range of her f2 1 and 2 1 will intimidate you from even trying to get in. There's also the problem that she'll build a good amount of meter by the time you reach her. One-bar hit-confirmable combos that lead to about 50% are not something I want to eat.

 

[16 Bit]

Enjoy eating a Fan Cutter or Fan Lift if you guess wrong.

The ass as a Wake-Up, when timed right, ensures a good escape route, but it doesn't always have to be done as a Wake-Up. As long as you correctly judge the distance at which you will land from Sonya, she can't touch you. There ARE other characters with specials that can punish it, though...Sub-Zero's slide, Raiden's superman, etc.

As for the air fans, they don't exist solely to deal damage. They control space. You can walk and duck them, but a hybrid Kitana who knows how to abuse the range of her f2 1 and 2 1 will intimidate you from even trying to get in. There's also the problem that she'll build a good amount of meter by the time you reach her. One-bar hit-confirmable combos that lead to about 50% are not something I want to eat.

There is no "timed right" on wakeup ass. It seems like you don't get how wakeup attacks work.

Sonya has some of the best tools in the game to deal with Kitana's footsies. She literally has the best normal in the game for dealing with Kitana's 2,1.

It takes 27 whiffed fans to build a single bar of meter. Get out of here with that ancient talking point.

 

[xKhaoTik]

Lol I can't believe finding out a number for this MU is THIS serious ...

 

[GamerBlake90]

There is no "timed right" on wakeup ass. It seems like you don't get how wakeup attacks work.

They get ten frames of invincibility if performed at the right frame after a knockdown. EX Specials get twenty, though with some armored specials like EX Cartwheel, it's a moot point. Some specials can't even be done as a Wake-Up.

Don't tell me I don't know how Wake-Up attacks work.

It takes 27 whiffed fans to build a single bar of meter. Get out of here with that ancient talking point.

Yes, I know it takes 27. But if you can build it, go for it, why not?

 

[Death]

Lol I can't believe finding out a number for this MU is THIS serious ...

It's serious business man

 

[THTB]

On cross up, though, they won't do shit to you. And since it's a well timed JP, you will be stuffing ass.

 

[GamerBlake90]

On cross up, though, they won't do shit to you. And since it's a well timed JP, you will be stuffing ass.

You do know that if they read a cross-up, they can reverse the inputs on their Wake-Up, right?

 

[THTB]

They get ten frames of invincibility if performed at the right frame after a knockdown. EX Specials get twenty, though with some armored specials like EX Cartwheel, it's a moot point. Some specials can't even be done as a Wake-Up.

Don't tell me I don't know how Wake-Up attacks work.



Yes, I know it takes 27. But if you can build it, go for it, why not?

You do know that ass out takes 20 frames until the first active frame? It's very stuffable.

 

[YOMI DJT]

No ma

No man. She can just throw fans and ass out when she's cornered. It's tough to get the lead back. Not to mention the range on her strings. 5-5

its not that simple just throw fans and ass out and the kitana will NEVER get caught thats funny. kitana doesn't go even with sonya.