s3 is what you use to convert a combo off a d1/d3/d4~flame aura.Or perhaps you just give him a bad fight
Hey Eddy, how should I be using S3 in the neutral as Hellfire (NOT asking about anti-airing with it btw, strictly footsies)? Should I be FBC'ing it so I can go into pressure on block, combo on it, or should I just FaF it and use the +frames to pressure on hit?
Also, why is F3 a button Hellfire doesn't need?
I got no issues converting it or using it as a combo tool, I mean using it in the neutral. Look at some of @Eddy Wang 's Ninjutsu play he gets a shitload of mileage out of S3 as a spacing tool in the nuetral, now I'm wondering if he was playing Hellfire would he be FBC cancelling these standing 3's, to get combo on hit + Pressure on block. I'm also not sure what S3 FBC is on block but tis definitely plus
didnt say it was a bad spacing tool, but for me the first thing that popped into my mind when i saw it was 7 frames was easy FBRC combos off of flame aura.
Hellfire can use S3 for multiple purposes, you can use it for easy conversion out of flame aura for sure.Or perhaps you just give him a bad fight
Hey Eddy, how should I be using S3 in the neutral as Hellfire (NOT asking about anti-airing with it btw, strictly footsies)? Should I be FBC'ing it so I can go into pressure on block, combo on it, or should I just FaF it and use the +frames to pressure on hit?
Also, why is F3 a button Hellfire doesn't need?
Yeah, imagine if he played you with the 2 good variations
lol. I don't think inferno is that bad.
Just to confirm those 2 specials and 1 normal are
yes, you cannot run blindly at hellfire and expect to get a string going, most of the people tend to wait out and fish for flame aura activation before charge right in.
yes, once someone gets in, he is kinda doomed, and spending the bar for armored take downs really doesn't do much justice IMO, but still Hellfire its not a variation that one can just apply pressure relentlessly, because he can easily active flame aura when one is trying to poke out, or to low profile to reverse pressure.
As a day 1 scorpion main of course I agree with you. But tbh, if he had better standing armor (lets say for example a safe takedown or if ex teleport or spear had standing armor, something like that) wouldn't that be too good? At that point he would have very little weakness. I am glad he has the armor weakness personally because every character has to be lacking somewhere especially when they are as strong as scorpion is in other areas. You weren't saying that his armor should be buffed or anything anyway so i was not meaning to imply you were btw lol
I would be happy if it was still full punishable on block, just not as crazy on whiff, just like other slides are. But maybe its fair.
All good points. I would trade the takedown armor & TP armor for EX Spear to be armored like MK9. They could also make it as unsafe as normal Spear.
LBSH Eddy, Inferno is dead lol. Hellfire only gets the nod because of its versatility in situations. Ninjutsu is just slightly better in the neutral & has great okizeme.
My bad on the b4 frame data, not a ninjutsu main here
Yeah it is great until someone blocks anything that you do 1 time. Think of the character as a 1000 pound man trying to tight rope walk over the Grand Canyon, but the tight rope is actually an uncooked piece of spaghetti.
lol. I don't think inferno is that bad.
first of all i dont use and in my opinion no one should end combos with tp, its only +18 whereas 21 is +24 and s3 is +26. If you end a combo in tp the only followups available are b3/f2/grab. Or go for a blockstring if you need meter etc. S3 into f4 jails, so there you can also mix f4 in the vortex( with ex spear no one should ever do regular spear as a starter)
It's definitely in the bottom 5 for worst variations. The only thing inferno had was ridiculous damage.
I would still rather opt for damage and be at +18 because with Scorpion you really don't need the extra frames. Sure, you can go into f4 now, but most good players will be able to fuzzy guard out of that scenario. You are still in a great position after a teleport ender and get guaranteed damage by finishing not cutting a BNB short for more + frames into a potentially unsafe mixup.Huge subject here mate
This is why I would only give stronger armor to Inferno, it would give incentive to use the variation, and not risk derailing the other variations for better or worse.
That would be cool. I guess they could give one of the minions standing armor to give some incentive to actually remember that inferno exists
