MKX AntiAirs: Which characters cannot Anti Air in Mkx

[Pig Of The Hut]

Liu kang against
Kotal
Sub
Scorpion(jk only)
Ermac (Jk only)
Eb
Kung Jin

I'm hella skeptical about this one

Liu kang is the best trip guarder in the game primarily based on walk speed

He can cleanly aa in ways people dream of w simple tripguarding walking back on jumps or forward

 

[The Farmer]

What can you get from spending the bar on EX sand?

You get nothing. He only asked what you can effectively anti air with. Not whether the AA was combo optimal or not

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Wouldn't it be better to ask what characters can't AA on reaction? I mean theoretically all characters have moves that AA but don't function as a proper AA. Then there's moves that look like they should function as an AA but are sub par or don't function at all. Example: goros U2, looks like an AA but isn't reliable, or Sonya b1 it doesn't look like an AA but AA's at times. Then there's characters like predator whose d2 is so inconsistent as an AA it's almost encouraged not to use it or his disc tend to AA but you can't react and throw them out so they're not technically supposed to be used as such? Do you see where I'm going here?

All this is assuming on reaction

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

You get nothing. He only asked what you can effectively anti air with. Not whether the AA was combo optimal or not

@Undeadjim

I hate to ask but does standing 2 not work guys???????!!!

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Wouldn't it be better to ask what characters can't AA on reaction? I mean theoretically all characters have moves that AA but don't function as a proper AA. Then there's moves that look like they should function as an AA but are sub par or don't function at all. Example: goros U2, looks like an AA but isn't reliable, or Sonya b1 it doesn't look like an AA but AA's at times. Then there's characters like predator whose d2 is so inconsistent as an AA it's almost encouraged not to use it or his disc tend to AA but you can't react and throw them out so they're not technically supposed to be used as such? Do you see where I'm going here?

Try F1 for Preddy.

 

[Tony at Home]

The question is a bit trolly in the sense it purposely phrases the issue in terms of "Who can't anti-air AT ALL" or "Who can't anti-air NO MATTER WHAT"

That's not the problem.

It's more of a straw-man argument. The problem is that in this game, more than any others, the risk reward for anti-airing is skewed heavily in favor of the jumper.

 

[The Farmer]

@Undeadjim

I hate to ask but does standing 2 not work guys???????!!!

Not always, standing 2 is position based. It will profile underneath at times and wiff. B1 and and B2 are preemptive. But B2 leads to full combo punish though

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Of course AA success is relative to the character's options, to the oncoming attack, to the jump arc and jump distance.
No one is questioning this.

It's just annoying when people speak with the implication that they AA all the time on every attempt every day of the week for an acceptable risk/reward ratio.

You know what a better option is? Playing footsies outside the opponent's attack range.

most people know that theyre just answering the mans question, in the words of a wise russian 'is just game why you hyaf to be mad?'

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

The question is a bit trolly in the sense it purposely phrases the issue in terms of "Who can't anti-air AT ALL" or "Who can't anti-air NO MATTER WHAT"

That's not the problem.

It's more of a straw-man argument. The problem is that in this game, more than any others, the risk reward for anti-airing is skewed heavily in favor of the jumper.

Solely based on the fact that it's harder as requires more knowledge

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Not always, standing 2 is position based. It will profile underneath at times and wiff. B1 and and B2 are preemptive. But B2 leads to full combo punish though

Idk I'll test tonight

What's a hard jump in to aa?

 

[haketh]

It's more of a straw-man argument. The problem is that in this game, more than any others, the risk reward for anti-airing is skewed heavily in favor of the jumper.

KOFXIII

 

[The Farmer]

Idk I'll test tonight

What's a hard jump in to aa?

Sub Zero Jump in kick.

 

[Undeadjim]

Idk I'll test tonight

What's a hard jump in to aa?

If you want to go straight to some of the harder to AA jump ins Kung Lao J2, Scorpion J3 Sub Zero's crossup punch (not sure if its 1 or 2) there is one of each to try.

 

[Tony at Home]

Solely based on the fact that it's harder as requires more knowledge

Yeah, I failed to AA here because of lack of knowledge

 

[Tony at Home]

Also:

 

[JJV Phoenix]

Idk I'll test tonight

What's a hard jump in to aa?

Sub ji1, Sub ji3, Scorp ji3, Ermac ji3 (I've had problems with it at least), Kotal and Sonya ji1

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Idk I'll test tonight

What's a hard jump in to aa?

Kotal Kahn J1 is extremely good
also
Shinnok J2

both stuff most character's uppercuts

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

I'm hella skeptical about this one

Liu kang is the best trip guarder in the game primarily based on walk speed

He can cleanly aa in ways people dream of w simple tripguarding walking back on jumps or forward

I know he can trip guard and low profile. But there's some jump ins/ situations where neither of the two will work and you have to anti air.

 

[HeroesNZ]

LBSH though, the fact that Tempest Lao is considered a demi-god when it comes to anti-airing in this game goes to show how shitty anti-airs are.

Put Tempest Lao in Injustice and you have characters like Aquaman and Flash who do what he does but meterless.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Sub Zero Jump in kick.

Ok this is just silly

You're not suppose to be able to have an end all end all move to anti air every attack

JK are known to be stronger on purpose

Regardless I'll look into it

 

[The Farmer]

EX Stab for EB is safe to do to

 

[Robotic]

Not knowing what your purpose is yet, BamBam, I'll trustfall this one:

Jacqui has d1, like WidowPuppy said, and it combos. It's inconsistent but Jacqui - at worst - will whiff; opponent will whiff the jump in as well. My view is that it is her best option.

Jacqui d3 is also good, shrinks her hurtbox even further, but is more inconsistent. Trading is more frequent than d1.

Shinnok S2 is his most satisfying fucking move. I don't even play him, but to pimp-slap a bitch outta the sky? I'll pick u every once in a while.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

idk im in practice getting the roll aa pretty consistent maybe im just the best mileena but it doesnt seem that hard

I can AA consistently with jacqui's S1 in training mode so ya.
On a real match it's very hard to AA Sub-Zero with regular roll.

 

[gam224]

Well so is the narrative then anti airs take more skill than previous games as opposed to "there are no Anti airs "?

There is pretty much always a way to anti air but with all due respect when you were questioned about how you could potentially option select kenshi back 2 into kenjutsu down forward 4 you said something along the lines of "you can but you shouldn't have to put in as much work as bs shinnok who is braindead and get's these mix ups for free". It's the same way with anti airing, some characters with 8 frame uppercuts like tremor and scorpion can anti air easier but other characters are more technical with fewer results.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

There is pretty much always a way to anti air but with all due respect when you were questioned about how you could potentially option select kenshi back 2 into kenjutsu down forward 4 you said something along the lines of "you can but you shouldn't have to put in as much work as bs shinnok who is braindead and get's these mix ups for free". It's the same way with anti airing, some characters with 8 frame uppercuts like tremor and scorpion can anti air easier but other characters are more technical with fewer results.

This is a fair post and I stand by it and agree w u and my original statement

Yes good post