MK11 KABAL Discussion

[Vslayer]

44% KB combo 2 bars: https://twitter.com/Gods_nerd/status/1111382953613918210

the opponent blocked the 1,1, string so I didn't get the full damage, but it looked like this:

1,1,* db4+R1 on kounter * f2,2 * db2+R1 * f2,2 * db2

 

[babalook]

so, wall combos, what've we got? I've been doing string ND 23DB2MB Ji1 23DB3 for 336 but I'm pretty sure we can do better.

edit: I managed to get a Ji3 D1 23DB3 after the MB hook grab but the CPU died so idk how much dmg it does yet.

 

[Vslayer]

My go to:

2,3 * BF3 * F2,2 * DB2+R1 * F2,2 * DB2

ji 2 * 1,1,1 * db4+R1

B1,2 * BF3 * 1,1,1 * DB4+R1 (if it's a counter it'll KB, so go for the usual F2,2 * DB2)

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

44% KB combo 2 bars: https://twitter.com/Gods_nerd/status/1111382953613918210

the opponent blocked the 1,1, string so I didn't get the full damage, but it looked like this:

1,1,* db4+R1 on kounter * f2,2 * db2+R1 * f2,2 * db2

Hey V, what are your best combos starting with B12D2(KB), what are you using for optimal damage on start, the best I'm able to catch it with is 11 xx Nomad Dash into S3 xx DB2+Amp and randomly ender but it's only 35%ish.

TL;DR:
What are your favorite KB starters and Enders for KB optimal damage?

 

[medleyoz]

What is the timing on amplifying his straight buzzsaw projectile? I literally just did a full tower on very easy just trying all different timings to get it to work and just couldn't do it.

 

[lionheart21]

What is the timing on amplifying his straight buzzsaw projectile? I literally just did a full tower on very easy just trying all different timings to get it to work and just couldn't do it.

I've been having some issues as well with regards to the input window

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

What is the timing on amplifying his straight buzzsaw projectile? I literally just did a full tower on very easy just trying all different timings to get it to work and just couldn't do it.

You have to press AMP before he throws it. The other amps is just as they hit ground (BF4, DB4) and the Air Hook is done just as it hits them.
It's actually nice this way because it helps for Hit confirmation.

 

[medleyoz]

You have to press AMP before he throws it.

Cheers. I feel like I tried that. I basically did BF1R1 and also tried delaying amplifying til I could see the saw in his hands and got nothing. All the other moves amplifying them is fine it's just this darn projectile.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

44% KB combo 2 bars: https://twitter.com/Gods_nerd/status/1111382953613918210

the opponent blocked the 1,1, string so I didn't get the full damage, but it looked like this:

1,1,* db4+R1 on kounter * f2,2 * db2+R1 * f2,2 * db2

1. Hey I found out that the normal into DB4 doesn't work to trigger the KB. Specifically the 11 starter. The DB4 Reversal KB is only triggered when it hits first and when your opponent wiffs or you counter there hits.
2. it doesn't require Amplify (R1/RB) to trigger the popup.

Maybe this will help you out to get it again.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

Cheers. I feel like I tried that. I basically did BF1R1 and also tried delaying amplifying til I could see the saw in his hands and got nothing. All the other moves amplifying them is fine it's just this darn projectile.

You amp just before he throws it. I don't have a problem with it anymore. Just practice it until you get the timing.

 

[Kiss the Missile]

Using b1 to trip guard is one of the best feelings in the game. Especially if you don't have to worry about something like Scorpion's teleport

 

[Red Reaper]

Here are some kombos I kame up with using under-used tools that I think kan work well together. Uses the low spin and air dash.

https://twitter.com/Hyrax_Whisperer/status/1111408136613552128

https://twitter.com/Hyrax_Whisperer/status/1111408318671544320

 

[Vslayer]

1. Hey I found out that the normal into DB4 doesn't work to trigger the KB. Specifically the 11 starter. The DB4 Reversal KB is only triggered when it hits first and when your opponent wiffs or you counter there hits.
2. it doesn't require Amplify (R1/RB) to trigger the popup.

Maybe this will help you out to get it again.

Okay so it triggered it because I countered them, but if I would have landed the 1,1,1, string it wouldn't have worked? Maybe it just doesn't work in a combo?

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

Okay so it triggered it because I countered them, but if I would have landed the 1,1,1, string it wouldn't have worked? Maybe it just doesn't work in a combo?

If you land any normal before the DB4 it doesn't work.
Your combo had the 11 on block and the first hit was DB4

 

[Konqrr]

44% KB combo 2 bars: https://twitter.com/Gods_nerd/status/1111382953613918210

the opponent blocked the 1,1, string so I didn't get the full damage, but it looked like this:

1,1,* db4+R1 on kounter * f2,2 * db2+R1 * f2,2 * db2

Interesting that the Amplify also does KB and does 5% more than the non-Amplify KB.

 

[Red Reaper]

Thanks! I only hit B12D2 (KB), 11-bf3 one time. I'm finding it easier with D1-d1-bf3 instead... at least for now that 11 is hard.

I always just remind myself to do the 11 as soon as they are about to land, because normally I want to do it much sooner. So that's how I get the timing.

 

[Vslayer]

Hey V, what are your best combos starting with B12D2(KB), what are you using for optimal damage on start, the best I'm able to catch it with is 11 xx Nomad Dash into S3 xx DB2+Amp and randomly ender but it's only 35%ish.

TL;DR:
What are your favorite KB starters and Enders for KB optimal damage?

You could also follow that KB with 2,3 * nomad dash * f2,2 * special?

If you land any normal before the DB4 it doesn't work.
Your combo had the 11 on block and the first hit was DB4

Ah okay I get it, thanks for the tip I'll definitely keep that in mind to try and get it every game at least. And that's a pretty cool requirement too, you can bait it out. Get your opponent to block and counter them.

 

[Wowbiggulps]

@just_2swift are you thinking of running with Kabal in this game? I just want to iafb and dash cancel again.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

You could also follow that KB with 2,3 * nomad dash * f2,2 * special?

Thanks I'll try it out.

Ah okay I get it, thanks for the tip I'll definitely keep that in mind to try and get it every game at least. And that's a pretty cool requirement too, you can bait it out. Get your opponent to block and counter them.

Also I find it is easy to trigger when using it to punish an unsafe move on block like Scorpion Spear/flame breath, Kabals Nomad Dash, Scarlet's Sciphon ect.

 

[babalook]

I honestly think NDC should leave you at like +10 if it's going to cost your defensive meter, how it is currently (+2 tops but feels like it might not even be plus off B12/F22), I'm not sure it should even cost meter.

 

[dribirut]

Jade is cancer to this character imo..

 

[Gamer68]

Two random questions:

1. Is it just me, or does Kabal sound like C. Tomas Howell aka Captain Cold's voice actor?
2. Should Kabal even have hair if his entire body was burned?

 

[liljay273]

How do you punish Kabals air blade?

 

[Law Hero]

Jade is cancer to this character imo..

Yeah? I thought I was the only one that felt that way. I really seem to struggle against Jades that know what they're doing. Can't seem to zone them because of Glow, and can't seem to outfootsie them because of their longer range. I figured I was just bad at the game though.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

I believe not.


My only gripe with Kabal and it has nothing to do with his gameplay!

That "Kaballin" taunt at the end of the round is absolutely lame. It sounds dumb af and I'm wondering if anyone has been able to change what he says after each round? So far I haven't found a way in customization.
Other than that I think kabal is solid and fair. I like that he doesn't have lows and that his only ones are D3, D4, B4 and 3 Gear options that are unsafe (-15/-17ob).
This makes his safe OHs balanced and I'm happy with his design. I played someone online and they bitched about his Fatal Blow being able to hit full screen. This is absurd that some want to change the character 25 days before the game is released! If you are not mashing out of turn and not jumping he can't Fatal Blow you so it's 100% your own fault if you get hit by it.
I am fine with all Fatals being -10/-17 on block if NRS wants to do this but I like that his Fatal Blow is full screen.

At face value, i didn't like it.
HOWEVER, my co-best friend in life is a HUGE Borderlands girl. And the trailer for part 3 dropped today. And it got me thinking...if the direction of Future Kabal ends up being revealed as a Handsome Jack/maybe Evil Johnny Cage type, who turns out to be that level of arrogant bad guy who talks shit because literally no one is at his speed...in THAT context, the cringe at least makes sense.